Death with 10x the penalty.

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Death with 10x the penalty.

Post by Mestophalies »

This is the problem;

I was leveling a new character. Raazon Del'Therium [DW]. I died just after attaining level 3. When I went to respawn, I saw that the system said I tried to use an item. It said, *Cant use that item level restricted, level 13*. This happened 10 times and then I received my death penalty. The penalty showed 100xp lost and 2876gp lost. I looked at saw that I infact lost 1000xp and not the 100 xp as shown and as you know you cant use any items once dead. So I have no clue what that was. I think this is a death bug when you are not quite -10hp. My character said three times that there was still some life left in it although it showed I was dead. I took a screen shot so you can see what happened. Let me know who is working in this area and I will send them the SS.

Stupid Rats. :x
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If a Dev or DM can get with me on this. I would hope this info can help one of you even though it is still very sad to my lowbie self. :cry:
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Post by Amoenotep »

we've all seen the lvl 13 requirment shoot up, i have some screenies of that myself. although this is the first time i've ever heard of someone losing 10x the xp they were supposed to.


atleast you were lvl 30 or so...that would have been extremely devastating.
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Devestating?

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What do yu mean? I am devistated. I lost 1/3 of my xp in one death. *Cries* I had to drink 3 kegs to just stop my sobbing. :(
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Death with 10x the penalty.

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Ok Dev's/DM's I am honestly upset with this.

Yes my second death with 10x the penalty.

This time I was fighting Orcs in the Black Hills. I died and received the level 13 error 10 times and then respawned to show I had taken 200 xp penalty and an unrealistic loss in gold. I looked and yes, I had taken 10x that penalty to the toon of 2000 xp loss. This time I am asking the 3k xp be given back to me. Yeah I know I'm a lowbie but, I think when your talking 1/3 of my total xp, thats a little excessive. So thats the 1k from the first death and the 2k from the second death = 3k. The gold loss is calculated like this; 10% of total x 10 deaths = the sum lost. (Note the 10% is of the total since the loss is not calculated until transition which has not yet occured.)

I will state that this is as I see it the issue at hand.

1, You receive the level 13 error if your lower then level 13 and you wont if your level 13 or higher. This is because Resurrection is the spell being used to restore your character on a respawn and your required to be level 13 to cast that spell. Now follow along here, When you respawn your character is raised and only after being raised is it transported through the transition to your bind point. So if your in a group of enemies they will attack you durring the resurection process and thus you receive an error. This will only be allowed 10 times max before it times out in the script and your automatically put through to your bind point. You will once more be dead and have to respawn because you were auto advanced by the script instead of a natural transition.

2, It doent happen in most pvp becuase there is only one attacker still standing on or near a fallen foe. You only get this if an agressor is too close to you when you respawn because of auto hostile. If your struck down durring the transition you get a transition death and not the multiple becuase there are not mulitple attackers. Do you follow me?

3, I suggest reversing the transition states. Basically, have the person transition to the bind point and then go through the resurrection animation. This would stop this bug cold. Also it would not harm the normal use of resurrection scrolls or spells as the transfer to a new transition point/Bind point does not occure. :wink:

Dev's/DM's I hope my observations here can help. I understand it may be easier said then done but, it is a solution.
Last edited by Mestophalies on Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post by Sparky »

Screenshots showing your loss would be helpful.
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Screen shots.

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I have screen shots of both and they only show 100xp and 200 xp losses with the large gold loss each time. They do however show the error level 13 restricted item 10 times each. If you wish when I get home I will PM them to you. I would have posted and sent them when it happened but, I had to log for work. :(

Edited: I understand that it's not the Dev's/DM's doing and that they did not walk up and hit me with an insta death stick 10 times. It's just frustrating. I mean I'm a Gold Dwarf, I'm freakin Royalty here. :x Show me some respect, tell all the mops they cant hit me for urm say a month or so. Jeese, you would think a few Orcs could unsderstand that Royalty deserves better treatment. 8)
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Post by Amoenotep »

bringing you back to life is a "magic" not a spell. its like insta life for you. the only thing that happens if you respawn in a group of mobs is that the group will try to kill you again.


i believe the error messages are tied to skins/abilities of some sort and we don't have a sufficient way of tracking it down yet.
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Things that make me say hmm.

Post by Mestophalies »

Ok, noted.

I will try to get all info I can when and if this occures again. Such as where I was and what I actually saw and what played out on screen.
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Screen shots.

Post by Mestophalies »

Ack, I can't find the screen shots I took. Wierd I have a few others though. Oh well, I will make very sure that should this occure a again, that I get screens. I am sure it will as it is a possible bug in the respawn.

As for the error being tied to the skins, if you reverse the spawn animation and port first the animate the spawn/cast the Magic. There should be no chance of a mess-up here. I am thinking outside the bun! :P
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