Scroll crafting

Becb · Post by **Becb** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:49 pm

can anyone give me a link to or tell me which wiz spell cant be made into to scrolls, someone said darkvision and keen edge but is that all

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:52 pm

All HotU spells.

All Bigby spells.

Other spells that I know don't work: Ultravision, Summon Creature III, Shadow Conjuration, Polymorph Self, Greater Shadow Conjuration, Greater Dispelling, Greater Stoneskin, Isaac's Greater Missile Storm, Shades, Greater Sanctuary, Sunburst, Time Stop (which is disabled anyway).

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:33 am

you can craft shadow conjuration unless its something new....i've been doing it since the "bugged web" incidents....lol.

Draco Nightspawn · Post by **Draco Nightspawn** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:23 pm

I can scroll Bigby's

Post by **Lokey** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:38 pm

If a spell has multiple choices, I think the first choice (English version) is the most likely to work (i.e. I checked the spell.2da line number on it and so forth, there were a lot of inconsistancies in the game constants [nwscript] at the time I wrote it).

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:53 pm

Lokey wrote:If a spell has multiple choices, I think the first choice (English version) is the most likely to work (i.e. I checked the spell.2da line number on it and so forth, there were a lot of inconsistancies in the game constants [nwscript] at the time I wrote it).

Hmmm, I'll try it out. I know there were several "multiple choice" spells that didn't work out properly, but I also know that one of those spells, Shapechange, is scribable, so maybe i jsut did the wrong spell.

I'll try the Bigbys again too, but last time I tried making them, I had an unusual problem with them. I know it wasn't a typo problem like Summon III, and I wasn't getting a message saying the scroll couldn't be scribed. But I don't remember exactly why I had trouble scribing them.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:12 am

cast a summon and use bigby on the summon.....it will scribe it.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:05 pm

Death Dealer1 wrote:cast a summon and use bigby on the summon.....it will scribe it.

So that's the problem. I was casting it on the table, but the spell wasn't going off. Normally in these cases, you can't cast the spell on the table at all.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:05 pm

Another spell which I've found to be unscribable is Tenser's transformation.

Another question: Time Stop is unscribale because the spell is disabled. That's understandable. But why do mobs occasionally drop the scrolls? There's no use at all for the scrolls, except for a wizard to learn the spell, but that's pointless given that the spell is disabled in the first place.

Post by **lordshelt** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:59 am

you can always sell it.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:03 pm

Yeah, and besides, the pictures on the scroll are just so darn good looking

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Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:54 pm

lordshelt wrote:you can always sell it.

Scroll resale prices are pitifully low. I almost never loot them anyway, if I need scrolls, I go and scribe them.

But my point was, why are they included as a drop at all when the spell is disabled?

PeregrineV · Post by **PeregrineV** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:38 am

This is about scroll scribing still, but a different question.

Wat is used to determine the level of a scribed scroll? I thought it was caster level, but it seems to be the minimum level at which the spell can be cast.

I would like my level 19 Melf's Acid Arrow scroll to do the damage of a level 19 caster, instead of level 5.

Any idea how it determines scroll level?

If it's not caster level, can that be changed/fixed?

Potions I understand for simplicities sake, but I've seen the same spells on scrolls just a different levels.

Thanks!

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:39 pm

Well, the toolset has spells that can be cast from items fixed at certain levels. Some spells can only be used at a single level. Other spells have several different levels, for example, an item can be made to cast fireball at level 5, 10, or 15 IIRC. Because of this, scrolls that are scribed here will always be of certain levels, and I think in cases where there's two or three different spell levels available for a scroll, the level you geet when scribing is based on your own.