Question about Enhancement Bonuses

IcemanXV · Post by **IcemanXV** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:25 am

Ok, so for a while I never saw the enhancement bonus to damage on my character sheet. I figured this was a change by the Devs. I then started a dwarf. I bought a lvl 9 halberd (+1 Enhancement) and the +1 physical damage shows up on my character sheet.

Is my first character bugged? I am trying on 2 different weapons here both with +2 enhancement, and the +phys from enhancement is not showing up.

YelloweFriday · Post by **YelloweFriday** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:00 am

Why is it that the first picture says it's a star of the Vampire and looks like it's a [censored] sword but the second picture says it's an enchacnted mithral warhammmer but it's the same sword? Is that not you in the pictures?

Qui · Post by **Qui** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:46 am

when u bring up your char sheet your char is below it.. its clearly not him in the pic.

QuickLightning · Post by **QuickLightning** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:57 am

Anyone else think the char and stance looks like a woman at that? (maybe an elf? by it's favoring a foot in the back...i thought the men stood tall/straight)

EvanFallen · Post by **EvanFallen** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:21 pm

To answer the thread poster's question, it is not a bug. I believe it was the choice of the game designers to remove the extra damage from enhancement. However, seeing the damage is a bug, perhaps there is extra damage on the weapon that you didn't see at first?

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:04 pm

If your slashing weapon has:
+1 enhancement
+1d6 damage slashing

You get more damage from the +1d6 so the game uses that instead of the +1 damage from enhancement. (You still get the +1 enhancement to enemies with damage reduction)

As for dual damage type weapons (halbeards, morningstars), those are hard to explain because it seems to be different for each weapon.

A [censored] sword shows the +1 physical because it is actually a peirce/slash weapon.

IcemanXV · Post by **IcemanXV** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:07 pm

To answer why the character looks like someone else...

Less Confused now?

I also bought a halberd with my Paladin and it works like the dwarf's. It must just be different weapon/item behavior.

EvilIguana966 · Post by **EvilIguana966** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:45 pm

It's a bug. The +x physical damage does not work if you have the same type of physical damage added in a larger amount elsewhere on the weapon. HOWEVER, it will show up if your weapon does 2 types of damage, like the slash/pierce of a halberd. +1 slash/pierce and 1d6 slash will add.

Basically, 2 of the same property never add. Like if you have a holy avenger and use divine strength you only get the one with the higher amount of divine damage.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:16 pm

I did more testing...
Dual damage type weapons are messed up.

I made a [censored] sword with
+5 peirce
+5 slash
+5 enhancement
1d10 base damage (which is peirce/slash in the toolset)

Put it on a character with 10 str, so no str mod.

In the character screen it listed each of the above +5 mods
+5 peirce
+5 slash
+5 physical
so going by the character screen i should have been doing 16-25 damage, however that wasn't the case.
The range of damage I saw popping up in the combat log ranged from 11-20 damage.

From testing I can say that with [censored] swords:
+5 enh & +5 peirce stack
+5 enh & +5 slash DO NOT stack

With morningstars (which are bludg/peirce) the +5 enh shows up as +5 bludg

So with all of that I'd have to say that bioware mislabelled the +5enh as +5 physical in the char screen, not as +5 slash as it should be.

Damage from Enhancement and Bonus Damage that is the same as the main base damage type of a weapon don't stack.

IcemanXV · Post by **IcemanXV** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:33 pm

I don't think it's all bioware though...

I've been on other servers and I can always see the enhancement to damage in my char screen for any weapon, regardless if it's stacking or not.

Also, I was using star of the vampire (morningstar) and it did not show the phys even though it has 2 damage types, bludg/pierce.

Post by **Lokey** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:52 pm

Jester has it right. The enhancement bonus damage is superceded by any damage of the weapon's base type if it's higher.

I.e. B Sword +5 with 2 slash damage will be +5, with d10 slash the same sword is +d10 slash damage.

Dual damage type weapons: some have been changed to single damage type along the way, i.e. Long/[censored]/Great Swords.