So here is the description:
Perfect Self
Type of Feat: Class
Prerequisite: Monk 20
Specifics: The character gains immunity to all mind-affecting spells and
effects, and damage reduction 20/+1.
Use: Automatic
So my question is why does my lvl 33 pure monk fall victim to stunning fist?
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cuz stunning fist isn't a spell or a spell-like effect, but someone hitting your noggin so hard, it short circuits your brain. At least that's the way I've always thought of it.
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Re: Monks
Any one seen serenity? Thats stunning fist, but is's still a mind-affecting effects that monks IMO should not be imune tocRaZy8or5e wrote:cuz stunning fist isn't a spell or a spell-like effect, but someone hitting your noggin so hard, it short circuits your brain. At least that's the way I've always thought of it.
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Stunning fist
Stunning fist is a fort save if I remember right. That implies its not a mind effecting effect.
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Mind affecting is suggesting that it changes the way your mind works in some fashion.
Stunning fist is a purely physical effect. It doesn't change the way you think in any fashion whatsoever. It physically removes your ability to think. A bit of a technicality I suppose, but that is the basic reasoning involved here.
Stunning fist as with all such physical attacks, like sneak attack and death attack, is stopped by being immune to critical hits.
Stunning fist is a purely physical effect. It doesn't change the way you think in any fashion whatsoever. It physically removes your ability to think. A bit of a technicality I suppose, but that is the basic reasoning involved here.
Stunning fist as with all such physical attacks, like sneak attack and death attack, is stopped by being immune to critical hits.
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I was just really surprised when I was stunned. I really thought that being stunned was a mind effect. I guess I will not be charging into those ranks of monks head long anymore. 
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Stunning fist is mind affecting like putting a plastic bag over your head is... purely physical.
Engine-wise anything can be mind affecting if we pass the right parameters... we could even make a reflex save that is considered mind affecting... I don't think there is any in ns4 though.
Engine-wise anything can be mind affecting if we pass the right parameters... we could even make a reflex save that is considered mind affecting... I don't think there is any in ns4 though.
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Thats either ominous as heck or Linux has a degree in law..LinuxPup wrote:Stunning fist is mind affecting like putting a plastic bag over your head is... purely physical.
Engine-wise anything can be mind affecting if we pass the right parameters... we could even make a reflex save that is considered mind affecting... I don't think there is any in ns4 though.
online degree I'm sure
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It was actually fixed a few patches ago that stunning fist was not stopped by mind-affecting immunity, only by crit immunity. My thought on my 20+ monk was why could itthid gazes still affect me
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Well under this argument would not Freedom of Movement make you immune to stunning fist? It seems that it’s more of a paralyzing effect then a mind effect so the above spell should give some bonus against it, maybe.
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No, Freedom protects against magical effects that impede movement, grapple and movement penalties underwater. Stunning fist isn't magical, a grapple or terrainmgrjebbo wrote:Well under this argument would not Freedom of Movement make you immune to stunning fist? It seems that it’s more of a paralyzing effect then a mind effect so the above spell should give some bonus against it, maybe.
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I thought stunning fist was a result of monks training to know how and where to strike at certain nerve points were when hit properly would block the nerve impulses from flowing thru the body, thereby paralyzing the victem temporarily. Basically, affecting the flow of information that tell the muscles what to do which were sent from the brain. Mind still working but the information is not getting out to the necessary parts of the body. Not really a mind affect but rather nerve affect.
An analogy: from a beginning at a lake up high in mountain; water flows down a stream filling successive ponds as elevation descends. Water would normally flow from pond to pond down stream filling each successive pond with water. But if a boulder from a nearby hillside falls into the stream; blocking the flow of water; the successive lower ponds would drain to emptiness. The lake at the beginning is unaffected by the boulder, but the water would be unable to flow down until blockage overflowed or otherwise removed. Temporarily flow of water (info) blocked.
In other words - victem's Chi is blocked.
An analogy: from a beginning at a lake up high in mountain; water flows down a stream filling successive ponds as elevation descends. Water would normally flow from pond to pond down stream filling each successive pond with water. But if a boulder from a nearby hillside falls into the stream; blocking the flow of water; the successive lower ponds would drain to emptiness. The lake at the beginning is unaffected by the boulder, but the water would be unable to flow down until blockage overflowed or otherwise removed. Temporarily flow of water (info) blocked.
In other words - victem's Chi is blocked.
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