Svirfneblin gets -2 to con, not str

[Daltian]

When you make a Svirfneblin char you get wrong stats.

[Bargeld]

When you create a gnome, you have this:
+2 Constitution, -2 Strength (at char creation, you start with 6 str and 10 con and then add points from there)

AFTER you login to server and change/apply subrace, the following are applied:
+2 Dexterity, -2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom, -4 Charisma

In order to NET his:
+2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom, -2 Strength, -4 Charisma

When I rolled Laufer, it worked fine (1 day after wipe). Don't know if it has changed since then, but the above calculation is kinda tricky and I have had to re-create 2 gnomes in the past cuz i screwed up the math.

[Daltian]

When you create a gnome, you have this:
+2 Constitution, -2 Strength (at char creation, you start with 6 str and 10 con and then add points from there)

AFTER you login to server and change/apply subrace, the following are applied:
+2 Dexterity, -2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom, -4 Charisma

In order to NET his:
+2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom, -2 Strength, -4 Charisma

When I rolled Laufer, it worked fine (1 day after wipe). Don't know if it has changed since then, but the above calculation is kinda tricky and I have had to re-create 2 gnomes in the past cuz i screwed up the math.

I am not home, but I am pretty sure my svirf has 6 CON. That shouldn't be possible according to your math. (i started out with minimum con).

[Bargeld]

I am not home, but I am pretty sure my svirf has 6 CON. That shouldn't be possible according to your math. (i started out with minimum con).

You would be correct, 8 con minimum... 2x Check charsheet for race maybe?

[Daltian]

Damn. So sorry for posting fake bug. Everything is OK.

[frogofpeace]

Just wondering why svirf AC bonus is deflection and not dodge. Dodge seems more appropriate, not to mention more useful.

[LinuxPup]

If we gave them dodge AC we'd have to nerf them somehow else since they've always been one of the most powerful races.

[Fezz]

No more powerfull then the gith one that gets free finesse, SR, +4 dodge ac, is human so extra skill points, and similar +/- to stats.

Both are ecl 3, the gith gets free finesse and more skillpoints because its considered human - the smurf gets +2 universal saves -4 cha though but it gets blur too. Seems pretty balanced against each other ??

[VagaStorm]

No more powerfull then the gith one that gets free finesse, SR, +4 dodge ac, is human so extra skill points, and similar +/- to stats.

Both are ecl 3, the gith gets free finesse and more skillpoints because its considered human - the smurf gets +2 universal saves -4 cha though but it gets blur too. Seems pretty balanced against each other ??

The blur is prety usefull for a toon without access to ii tho....

[LinuxPup]

Gnomes/Halflings get a +1 AB/AC too.... doesn't show up on the character sheet, but its there. Svirfs get Keen Sense too...

[frogofpeace]

Fiar enough - just wanted to know if it had been considered. Thanks.