Pure fighter KD - explanation plz

[Bargeld]

Fierce battles ensued this morning as one of the Shadow Legion infiltrated Neversummer Castle. The defenders were at their wits end... WHERE is he?!

Good coordination between dragon and fighter led to many a KD tokens being used. Hellball and the token were their only defense!

Alas the poor raider was befuddled after looking at the history of the battle:



My understanding of that log is that I succeeded with saves vs the token. Please clarify, as I was on my back and beat down and would like to prevent that in the future

[VagaStorm]

I think that tells if the fight is successfull or not. I have a toon that keeps geting failed on pure barb token, and kan keep fighting like nothing had happened.

[Lorkar]

A quick look at it seems to me that the token was successful against you. If you see after it say Ethos uses the item it has the items Discipline first then what I assume to be yours. The same for the save. I can see how that would be confusing seeing as how in most other instances you roll your save first and the DC of the effect/spell comes after. This does look backwards to me though.

[Bargeld]

Unfortunately that was my conclusion as well, thank you for confirming. It seems EVERYTHING is backwards with regards to the log and this item. I hadn't noiced the order of the DC's... good eye! What stuck out in my head was that I thought the 'successful' message applied to me. Why would he make a save vs a kd token when i am the one getting hit?

I understand that it's just 'how it works' engine/code wise... and obviously not a huge issue.

[Sparky]

The Dev that implemented the Token chose to show the results from the user's point of view. So indeed, a result of successful means the Fighter was victor.

The same goes for the Bloody Roar token as well, with a caveat based on proximity.

We haven't quite gotten around to clarifying it yet.

[Celorn]

heh.. you are getting a bit harder to spot, but you would have been toasted marshmallows if I had logged on...;]

Good luck on beating the fighter token... you're gonna need every discipline boosting item in the game just to have a 1% chance (if you aren't a pure fighter yourself, a bard or a STR-based toon).