i agree. just seems like a case of making the abused red-headed stepchild feel better by beating on his red-headed cousin MORE.LinuxPup wrote:I'm guessing the point was to make Druids more special and worth taking...
aura of vitality check
As if a cleric really needs this boost. Get back to reality please. Clerics already have some of the best buffs for any party. They even would be happy to see a cleric only for resurrection.disastro wrote:i agree. just seems like a case of making the abused red-headed stepchild feel better by beating on his red-headed cousin MORE.LinuxPup wrote:I'm guessing the point was to make Druids more special and worth taking...
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fyi: check out this thread:
http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=6286
regarding diversity in cleric builds. it's good reading before telling folks to "get back to reality," or suggesting ressurection is all any cleric needs or should have.
http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=6286
regarding diversity in cleric builds. it's good reading before telling folks to "get back to reality," or suggesting ressurection is all any cleric needs or should have.
Yup, you still can have diversity in cleric builds without having to resort to changes right now. I think I read and understood. Did you?
Where did I say a cleric only should have resurrection? You are twisting my words - clearly.
The only problem seems to be that most players will go for the best combination while disregarding the rest, cause slightly till a lot weaker builds would result. But they are still better than other classes out there. A cleric is one of the most versatile class in NWN. If you only compare it to the travel trickery combo you aren't doing justice to the rest.
Maybe we should plead to change travel and trickery domains then? But why nerf something, if it works, right?
Which leaves me with my first opinion. The cleric doesn't need any work at the moment. It really has one of the lowest priorities of all the classes.
Where did I say a cleric only should have resurrection? You are twisting my words - clearly.
The only problem seems to be that most players will go for the best combination while disregarding the rest, cause slightly till a lot weaker builds would result. But they are still better than other classes out there. A cleric is one of the most versatile class in NWN. If you only compare it to the travel trickery combo you aren't doing justice to the rest.
Maybe we should plead to change travel and trickery domains then? But why nerf something, if it works, right?
Which leaves me with my first opinion. The cleric doesn't need any work at the moment. It really has one of the lowest priorities of all the classes.
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well if your point is that this is a low priority request, then i agree with you (which is why i didn't even post it as a suggestion in the ideas forum).
however try not to step on people for simply suggesting things that would make the game better, regardless of what priority such changes should get. Suggestions of any kind are partly what these boards are FOR.
however try not to step on people for simply suggesting things that would make the game better, regardless of what priority such changes should get. Suggestions of any kind are partly what these boards are FOR.
You are right. I shouldn't be that "snappy". But threads which want to improve clerics, while other classes need more love, just put me on edge. Sorry.
And I will repeat myself: Even crappy domains don't really make a cleric build weak per se. Just weaker than a tt (travel trickery) one.
And I will repeat myself: Even crappy domains don't really make a cleric build weak per se. Just weaker than a tt (travel trickery) one.
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If you build it right, and have access to certain crafted gear.... you don't NEED trickery domain. Travel is still very important on a server where movement speed means life or death in many situations.Nyeleni wrote:You are right. I shouldn't be that "snappy". But threads which want to improve clerics, while other classes need more love, just put me on edge. Sorry.
And I will repeat myself: Even crappy domains don't really make a cleric build weak per se. Just weaker than a tt (travel trickery) one.
