Earth Gensi Bug....

[Squikker2001]

Arcane Archer > Earth Gen Fighter.

If you have a high enough AB to consistantly hit the earth gen and do decent damage, you can take down its special ability pretty fast. It has been noted before that when an Earth Gensai's damage reduction runs out, ALL the little extras (like the AC bonus) goes with it.

Now I have never made an Arcane Archer, but from what I have seen, they are deadly with a good bow and arrows.

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[kingfatzo]

Earth Gen is immune to stunning fist while their warding is up.

That's probably what Frice was thinking about there.

If that is indeed the case, it is not until lvl 40...

that is also NOT the case

<<< lvl 40 earthgen on ns-prime
can be stunned if improperly geared..... again, Mloki can vouch

Arcane Archer > Earth Gen Fighter.

If you have a high enough AB to consistantly hit the earth gen and do decent damage, you can take down its special ability pretty fast. It has been noted before that when an Earth Gensai's damage reduction runs out, ALL the little extras (like the AC bonus) goes with it.

also a very good point !

[Lorkar1]

Arcane Archer > Earth Gen Fighter.

If you have a high enough AB to consistantly hit the earth gen and do decent damage, you can take down its special ability pretty fast. It has been noted before that when an Earth Gensai's damage reduction runs out, ALL the little extras (like the AC bonus) goes with it.

Now I have never made an Arcane Archer, but from what I have seen, they are deadly with a good bow and arrows.

Dont know about you but I dont see many AA's out there. As far as Earth Gen goes it seems as if everyone is placing them in a class position instead of a racial position. Only when combined with a class that makes use of their DR do they present a problem. But then who knows maybe there is an Earth Gen Harper Scout out there roaming the planes kicking [censored] and taking names that I havent heard about.

[Amoenotep]

i seen an earth gen monk/wm before...he did really good.

[P. Fricebottle]

Sounds like he has a crap AB as well.

**Sigh** Jester, he was still hitting quite a lot. He has a 55% chance of a crit upon hit, and he hits 7 times per turn. I don't feel like doing the math, but the chances that he was rolling 9s and lower and still hittin an Earth Gen with those is so un-likely I don't think we should be debating it.

Edit: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure that the Earth Gen's special ability will soak those arrows. Nearly everything does anyway, sure you can hit the Earth Gen with your monstrous AB but its not like you're going to kill him. He'll just knock your elven butt down and beat the living crap out of you.

[MasterYoda]

mabey he was critting but doing no damage.

I had a run in with mlokis barb once at level 29 fully buffed cleric I crit for ''weapon innefective'' damage.

kuks do crap damage so u might have been critting for O damage

[P. Fricebottle]

Thats possible, but he was using two Deathbite blades and he was getting off 29+ damage. Maybe he was getting crits, but most of the damage was being soaked by the Epic Warding.

[JesterOI]

Until the earth gen hits level 40 your can easily skip it damage reduction with an AA.

Perhaps a nerf from +20 reduction to +15

[kingfatzo]

you want to nerf somthing ? nerf PMs...

COUGH !!! crit immune !!! COUGH !

[JesterOI]

After 10 levels.

It not like the cheese of 1st level pallies or 1st level SD's.

PM's usually have lower AB.

The ones with higher AB have crap Will saves, use a will save spell.

[Bishop99]

I don't see what all the fuss is about... earth genasi's go down just as easy as anyone else- having the correct armor immunity's is the only real defense.

[Binkyuk]

Edit: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure that the Earth Gen's special ability will soak those arrows. Nearly everything does anyway, sure you can hit the Earth Gen with your monstrous AB but its not like you're going to kill him. He'll just knock your elven butt down and beat the living crap out of you.

I think the point is that with 19 AA levels you get +10 arrows that will pierce level 30 earth gen DR. Good luck piercing the level 40 though, but there's not a huge number around.
Even so you're right that it's unlikely to kill even a mere mortal fighter with arrows before he can plant you firmly on your butt, they're just not damaging enough.

[P. Fricebottle]

you want to nerf somthing ? nerf PMs...

COUGH !!! crit immune !!! COUGH !

PMs aren't too bad, its just the fact that they can cast spells they're not supposed to with so few mage levels.

I don't see what all the fuss is about... earth genasi's go down just as easy as anyone else- having the correct armor immunity's is the only real defense.

Have you ever fought an Earth Genasi? They do not go down as easily as anyone else. Dutch can chop anyone into pieces within seconds, he couldn't even kill one Earth Genasi. They're a race with Epic Warding, no they do not go down just as easy as anyone else.

Good luck piercing the level 40 though, but there's not a huge number around.

Thats what I meant. Sure, theres not a monstrously large number around but there are. Usually in PvP, theres going to be a level 40. Earth Genasi only have ECL 2, its not too hard to level them to level 40.

[kingfatzo]

Have you ever fought an Earth Genasi? They do not go down as easily as anyone else. Dutch can chop anyone into pieces within seconds, he couldn't even kill one Earth Genasi. They're a race with Epic Warding, no they do not go down just as easy as anyone else.

...maybe in your experiences....just work on a better build, thats all.... earthgen dr will drop like a rock depending on who he is being attacked by.... and again to remind you, that once the earthgen dr collapses, he looses out on the ac bonus as well .... a fair tradeoff on all levels .

[mgrjebbo]

Nerf PM's now thats a thread i can get into....

They should be forced into being evil aligned. They should only be able to cast 3rd lvl spells with a 5th lvl mage. They should not be reciving +azillion ac. THey suck woot!