spell focus and epic spells

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:11 pm

was discussing builds with some friends and the subject of whether spell foc evo and its other versions effect the DC of Grater Ruin and Hellball i dont know off hand and couldent find any info on this so heres a post.

on a related topic what do you think is the more usefull spell of the two? the curent vote in the group i was talking with was for hellball even tho the damage isnt that great the AoE KD is the main use of the spell. conversly greater ruin is alot more damaging but has no secondary effect and is one target only.

disastro · Post by **disastro** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:15 pm

in my experience they both kinda suck, but hellball is a lot more fun.

actually i'd pick hellball just on the basis of its fun factor

cRaZy8or5e · Post by **cRaZy8or5e** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:56 am

Hellball.

Cuz it looks cooler.

disastro · Post by **disastro** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:08 am

to be more specific... gr and hellball do roughly the same damage as any other empowered or maxd high level spell (after resistances/immunities/etc), they are only once per day, and they require you to blow a feat. hellball has a nice kd effect, but it's not party friendly last i checked. with its huge radius your party wont be able to maximize the use of this effect. for the same reasons it's merely OK in pvp.

if you had a pure pally in your group with the immunity to kd going (and a Big Giant Weapon) you might come up with some interesting uses. but overall... meh. there are better feats to pick from usually.

Aarkon Draco · Post by **Aarkon Draco** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:56 am

disastro wrote: if you had a pure pally in your group with the immunity to kd going (and a Big Giant Weapon) you might come up with some interesting uses. but overall... meh. there are better feats to pick from usually.

why it just so happens i do have a pure pally usaly in my party of epic lvl toons

how did you guess that was my thoughts on the use for hellball ... MUAHAHAHAHAHA

Nyeleni · Post by **Nyeleni** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:27 am

shhhhht! Don't give anything away. We still have to get a score of hellballers first ;...

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:33 am

Bothj spells are equally efficent if u know how to use em.

Rummybum · Post by **Rummybum** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:37 pm

I have a toon with spell penetration feats and super high stat and Hellball and looks cool is about all it is good for. It knocks down everyone which limits is some. I don't think greater ruin scales up either, it really isnt very useful vs anything epic.