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Nyeleni wrote:But it has sonic and positive dmg, which is not so easy to resist in pvp. And most mobs dont have either. I don't think it's worse than the hope crusher. Besides the [censored] Sword has a higher crit. range and the hammer is +6...
yah beat me to it! I use a Lumi Smiter with one of my toons. I have no complaints at all. +2ab is +2ab . I don't know why you would underate it?
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mgrjebbo wrote:i think the reasonable solution here is to make the rest of the weapons weaker instead of making some stronger. The gear is uber enough guys, lets take a step back.

Make the lower weapons weaker and lower some of the stats of the other lvl 40's and the problem is gone. So what if armor is alot stronger than weapons, then maybe you can fight someone without them drinking a pot because the fight will take a bit anyway.
i kind of agree with this...ive always felt NS4 was making too powerful gear in general

+4enhancement, +5-6ac per piece is an excellent balance.
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for thoes saying tone them down .. thats ALOT more work than adding 1d10 to one weapon my solution makes it very easy on the devs and is quick to implement. if we tone down every weapon and armor then the devs would need to lower all the mobs AC and HP to reflect the lesser ab and damage of us a vicious cycle i like how most things are now if it is'nt broke why fix it.

the lumi bast sword is weak for its level and a easy fix as i suggested.


the capps on damage and bonuses are good to keep in mind for NS5 however since its in development its easy to make it that way. lets keep NS4 the way it is and we can have NS5 as the less gear focused server/realm.

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all i am saying is more damage isnt the answer

edit: sorry i cant spell lol
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and i can respect your opinion however with the way NS4 is set up having a lvl 35 weapon that is sub par can relay hurt your effectiveness as it is right now the rapier and hammer are the favored weapons because the top ones are so powerful all im asking is to level the field.

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Aarkon Draco wrote:and i can respect your opinion however with the way NS4 is set up having a lvl 35 weapon that is sub par can relay hurt your effectiveness as it is right now the rapier and hammer are the favored weapons because the top ones are so powerful all im asking is to level the field.
wrong. the rapier and hammer are favored weapons because SLASH IMMUNITY is so prevalent. my barbarian using greataxe on paper should do 80+dmg reg hits...in reality he does 20-30 because of slash immunity

vary the types of immunities on Armor, yes thats armor...not shield, stuff you put on your chest...to something other than Slash and youll see more people using other types of weapons.

Rapier and Warhammer will still be seen as they are the best in class for 1handed damage (pierce and bludg respectively). The base weapon is simply superior to many of the other weapon types of that damage and size.
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Rapier is pretty much in a class of its own... best possible crit range and the only medium-sized weapon in NWN that's finessable.
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banny if you look at the lvl 30 rapier and hammer they have better stats than the lumi sword does and its lvl 35 weapon thats why im saying they are a favored weapon.

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well it seems like the [censored] sword has been upgraded :) end of discussion Id say...
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-BannyD- wrote:
mgrjebbo wrote:i think the reasonable solution here is to make the rest of the weapons weaker instead of making some stronger. The gear is uber enough guys, lets take a step back.

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i kind of agree with this...ive always felt NS4 was making too powerful gear in general

+4enhancement, +5-6ac per piece is an excellent balance.
The problem with +4 enhancement is that 1. caster/meleers end up being more effective than pure melee 2. mages/druids become a lot more effective vs. pure melee - remember Blackwillow's mage? and Nominus Phasia? they ran around laughing with premonition because not many people could damage them faster than they were being damaged.

What I would have liked to see is:

-all types of finesse, 1-handed weapons: +5
-all types of non-finesse 1-handed weapons: +6
-all 2-handed weapons: +7
-all double-sided weapons: +8
-all ranged weapons +6

Gives a bit of balance for dex vs. str fighters, and non-shielded 2handers or double-sided losing 2 ab off the top (which I don't quite see the logic behind).
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Post by Binkyuk »

I think their success was more based on casting bigby's horribly overpowered hand of unsavable guaranteed death than damage reduction tbh...

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nomius out matched my mage by 20 lvls and i still killed his sorc all the time...once again wiz pwns sorc :)



and on topic, revamping all the weapons/gear in ns4 would be a huge undertaking and would probably end up with a db wipe just to be sure......becareful what you wish for :twisted:
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