Lag induced PK respawn penalty

Post by **cely** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:41 am

Just a friendly reminder, please do not attack players while they are in combat with a mob. There is a chance that if you PK them, they might suffer a respawn penalty. Usually this sort of thing is lag induced, but sometimes it can even happen when there is no noticeable lag on the server.

Gornickthy · Post by **Gornickthy** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:56 am

It most often does not matter if the killing blow is done by a mob or by a player. In most cases the death is considered by mob if the mob and PKer are in the same combat sequence. This has been tested by many trial and errors, and can happen quite frequently during relic raids (just a FYI). If you believe that you may be subject to a xp loss due to being pk'd in combat sequence with a mob/npc then alert that person. It is good form for the PKer to raise the pk'd, even if it is a raise-kill. Even bitter enemies can show respect to each other in the overall game play.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:03 am

Gornickthy wrote:It most often does not matter if the killing blow is done by a mob or by a player. In most cases the death is considered by mob if the mob and PKer are in the same combat sequence. This has been tested by many trial and errors, and can happen quite frequently during relic raids (just a FYI). If you believe that you may be subject to a xp loss due to being pk'd in combat sequence with a mob/npc then alert that person. It is good form for the PKer to raise the pk'd, even if it is a raise-kill. Even bitter enemies can show respect to each other in the overall game play.

What the heck?

Kst leaves for a bit, okies dissappear and dd1 vanishes and people get pk mushy?

If I kill u and u loose xp I laugh

Don't raise your enimies.... This is a time of war.

Mabey if everyone wasn't so friendly builds would get better since people would have to learn better builds

Post by **cely** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:37 am

MasterYoda wrote: If I kill u and u loose xp I laugh

Oh that's right, I forgot that the Neversummer Commandments don't apply to you.

LadyCheron wrote:III Thou shalt not exploit known bugs with the intention of causing another player to suffer a respawn penalty. This includes the Flesh to Stone bug.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:39 pm

cely wrote:
MasterYoda wrote: If I kill u and u loose xp I laugh
Oh that's right, I forgot that the Neversummer Commandments don't apply to you.

LadyCheron wrote:III Thou shalt not exploit known bugs with the intention of causing another player to suffer a respawn penalty. This includes the Flesh to Stone bug.

Lol since when did pking people become a xploit.

Everyone has lost xp from a pk.

I have ..... But u never see my whining on the boards about xp loss....

U know shy?

Cause it happens to everyone. I don't raoise enimies unless the combat log says

Random mob killed noob

If it says I killed u respawn. If u loose xp tough cookies. Stop whinging.

npasher · Post by **npasher** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:05 pm

Oh Oh, looks like another flame war is going to start!

Post by **LinuxPup** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:34 pm

Havok is one of the worst whiners of all... he gets so mad when someone PKs him that he threatens people who PK him with "proof" that you've been breaking the rules of NS4 when you haven't. When you ask him what proof, he doesn't have anything.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:38 pm

No flame war is needed. These are common sense pk rules.

Whining has changed lots of things throughout the course of ns but it won't change the pk rules.

There are some things not controlled by anything and are hence bugs. If u loose xp during pvp and the log says a PC killed u then its really tough cookies. Pm a dm with a ss and see if he can fix it.

There have been way too many alloances and relic treaties and such for this type of server.

You come to this server with the knowledge that is it a server at war. You will be pked. If something happens where u get pked and u loose something...... Well...... That's a risk ur taking by playing on a pvp server.

I personally like to post of pvp related subjects since I know most every rule on pking. Pking is fun and in my gameplay has become a way of playing.

Pking has buggs yes but it is just that a bug.

Its not a exploit to kill someone and not raise them

Hell its not even a exploit to attack someone and if they get killed by a mob to not raise them/

Its more of a common courtsy.

But u know the saying.

Do unto others as they would do unto u.

I never expect a rez from a pk. Unless from a team mate.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:47 pm

LinuxPup wrote:Havok is one of the worst whiners of all... he gets so mad when someone PKs him that he threatens people who PK him with "proof" that you've been breaking the rules of NS4 when you haven't. When you ask him what proof, he doesn't have anything.

Well I won't flame back cause its not really needed.

The event your talking about was when kst decided to pk everyone on the mt.

A few people relogged after either running or being pked. Relogging after being killed is bannable yes but dms can take care of that.

And there is a difference between whining and talking smack.

I talked smack to u when it took ur level 40 5 attacks to kill my lvl 16 hipser. Which u also couldn't see

I don't ever even say anything unless I get tells from someone first..... Like ur md buddys. Once I receive tells I usually like to make fun of it over shout.

And to ur pm build.... Very nice. U only had to chugg 1 heal pot vs a lvl 16 and a lvl 30 attacking u. Very nice

Lorkar1 · Post by **Lorkar1** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:05 pm

Yay....yet another dead horse to beat. If this keeps up we can have a dead horse round-up with cheese and crackers for all, because apparently all have brought their own whine.

Post by **cely** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:42 pm

Moderators, please delete this thread.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:00 pm

Why delete it?

It actually contains helpfull info about respawn pnealties when and during pvp.

If anything lock it cause it does have the potential for spam and flames

Gornickthy · Post by **Gornickthy** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:42 pm

Yoda, why do you act like such a noob all the time? Man you crack me up with your delusions of self grandeur.

First of all, try to use a spell checker before you post (not a flame, just an observation). You are right about this thread actually containing useful information, and it should be locked rather than deleted.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:51 pm

GLOATS AT THE MISFORTUNE OF THE DWARF

p\/\/nd !!

Post by **Metis** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:07 pm

Shocking it went this way...

You can attack someone while they are fighting, personally I don't agree with it but then again there can be a lot of different scenarios. That being said my opinion isn't the rule so yes you can.

Even without any npc around there can be times when you loose xp from a pk its unfortunate and happens rarely and as I am sure everyone knows there is nothing that can be done about, just one of those things we created correctly but nwn sometimes doesn't feel like using.