Bugs with Gnomes.

[Mestophalies]

OMG!!!!

Can no one understand?

I just wanted to know what was actually "SAPPOSED" to be the benefits given to the Gnomes.

Are they sapposed to get "50% Concealment" or not.

Are they sapposed to get "+4 AC against all creatures larger then themselves" or not.

Are the numbers of their SR adding up or not.

These are question that can not be answered by the wiki because, as you all have said its inaccurate. So please a simple "YES or NO!"

This is why I posted and asked a Dev to PM me or post. Plain and simple, if the numbers I am getting are whats sapposed to be then I want to know as the +3 ECL is not worth it. If they are wrong then lets fix them.

[TGPO]

Well, you seem to have lashed out at the players who have been trying to help you so here is my solution for you.

Play one all the way through and document as you go. In this fashion you'll answer your own questions and stop lambasting those who have to date tried to assist you.

Theres the reply you have been demanding from the adminstration, and yes, that is our final answer.

[Binkyuk]

Ooh, harsh.

Well, I'm not a Dev so this is probably 100% wrong, but I'll do my best.

Concealment:
You *should* get 50%, and it's a (now documented in the wiki) bug that you only get 40%, i'm sure it's somewhere on the low end of the Dev's todo list already.
But you're only getting 20% concealment, so my (entirely non-official) suggestion would be:
a) ask in-game for a DM to strip and reissue your Svirfneblin power token and/or use the Restore Subrace wand (if it still works with Leto races) and see if that fixes it.
b) if it doesn't, then there's a bug with your character, the usual way to fix this is to PM Zing your toon name and ask him to peek at the DB entry for you.

SR:
Not heard of SR dropping away randomly. It's known that it drops on death and comes back after resting, but I've not heard of other occasions. This may well mean the Dev's don't know about it, so i'm sure they'd appreciate some notes on when it happens.
(As an idea, is it mords and spell breaches that strip it?)

AC:
This is +4 deflection and AFAIK is as designed. If it's to be changed it's a request, not a bug report (new thread in Ideas and Suggestions might be appropriate after the wanderings of this thread).

[JesterOI]

Have always been told it's +4 Deflection because that's the AC Type on the invis player skin.

Have suggested removing that and getting the token to give +4 dodge ac in addition to the concealment, but nothing has ever been done.

[watchwood]

I would have thought Dodge AC instead of deflection, since invisible people are harder to see.

[Mestophalies]

Thanks for the reply.

You are 100% right Binkyuk.

I did some testing today and was getting 40% concealment. I am not sure what caused the 20% concealment but then again it was durring a raid.

So, my tests today were on monsters and such.

I received the 40% concealment, Also my magic resistance seemed stable.

I have reported to at least one DM in the past that my "Racial Abilities" failed durring a raid. The "Racial Abilities" were restored by said DM. As to what is causing it I dont know. Perhaps they are dismissable. I Dont think they were designed to be that way but, it is a possibility.

I do know that once my "Racial Abilities" (SR) is gone, I have to log out and relog in to get them back.

Jester you too are 100% correct as Gnomes were to receive a +4 AC and not just +4 against Giants and such.

*As for my lashing out, I apologize to all whom felt that. I was just frustrated as I believed my point was not comming across and was unable to word it well enough for all to grasp my intent.*

[Mestophalies]

New and distressing developements:

I went from having my "Racial Abilities" (Deep Gnome) being stripped from me once in a while to losing them every time I fight now. This started last night on the Negative Plain. So unless this can be fixed, this character is pretty useless.

I dont understand why I am losing the abilities given to me by my "Racial Item" All I know for sure is that they are being lost faster and far more often then ever before.

Potions used were Ghostly Vision, Etherial Vision and used the Improved Invisible Wand. When the effects of any of them wore off, I lost my Racial Abilities. {Note: I used to use Improved Invisible, Etherial Vision and Gostly Vision all the time with no ill effects, so this is soething recently occuring}

If I use a potion, when the potion wears off, so do my Racial Abilities. This is not sapposed to happen as they are sapposed to be level/time based. If a Dev can look into this, I would be greatful. I am sure its low on the list of things to do as their are only a few Deep Gnomes in game. It is distressing for me as this is my main character.

Characters name: Gabrial (Fists of RK) [DW]

*Bump* I tested today and found this to only occure when using Potions of Ghostly Vision and Etherial Vision. I didnt have any Improved Invisible Wands so, not sure if they are still effecting me.

No the character is not entirely useless but, I am definately having a ton of trouble with PvP now.