Summon Updates 30th Jan

Post by **Zing** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:25 am

Small summon update this evening.

-PK Summon XP loss should now be fixed.

-Summon Bonus Stat loss issue also looked at.

-PM Legendary summons help text improved.

Please let me know if these issues are fixed.
Thanks

Jain · Post by **Jain** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:45 pm

I will test the XP loss once my cleric is back from her trip...

Also, we've noticed a lot of the summons have focus in weapons, yet wield no weapons... is that part of the fix or future fix?

Kromix · Post by **Kromix** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:22 pm

Jain wrote:I will test the XP loss once my cleric is back from her trip...

Also, we've noticed a lot of the summons have focus in weapons, yet wield no weapons... is that part of the fix or future fix?

the latter was explained by Zing on earlier posts that it was because of the levelup script, and theese undead are to be weaponless....

although it would be cool if they had lvls in monk...

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:00 pm

Zing wrote:Summon Weapons:
-Undead summons receive creature weapons appropriate their level once the power of the caster has been determined. There are 7 weapon sets for an Undead summon which are applied in a linear fashion starting from level 1 with the most powerful being received at level 35.
-Non-Undead summons weapons are fixed.

hmm..so the first 'weapon' is no weapon then? ;] So far my blackguard summons (at lvl8) are only good as a distraction/meat bag to take hits, if I buff them a bit, they can cause about 2-4 damage to giants... if they had some kind of weapon, they might actually be more useful, but not for the build I'm doing.

My 25 cleric casting greater undead gets an unarmed Mort (capped at 15) with epic weapon focus and specialization in longsword.... do you actually need necro focus or the right domain(s) to get a weapon? I'm confused now...

KST_HAVOK · Post by **KST_HAVOK** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:24 pm

Celorn wrote:
Zing wrote:Summon Weapons:
-Undead summons receive creature weapons appropriate their level once the power of the caster has been determined. There are 7 weapon sets for an Undead summon which are applied in a linear fashion starting from level 1 with the most powerful being received at level 35.
-Non-Undead summons weapons are fixed.

hmm..so the first 'weapon' is no weapon then? ;] So far my blackguard summons (at lvl8) are only good as a distraction/meat bag to take hits, if I buff them a bit, they can cause about 2-4 damage to giants... if they had some kind of weapon, they might actually be more useful, but not for the build I'm doing.

My 25 cleric casting greater undead gets an unarmed Mort (capped at 15) with epic weapon focus and specialization in longsword.... do you actually need necro focus or the right domain(s) to get a weapon? I'm confused now...

Yeah this confused me as well ....

Keep up the good work now i love summons :lol:

Post by **Zing** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:36 pm

Creature weapons and armour means claws & teeth or skin & hide.

These are not visible by just looking at the avatar.

So in short trust me they all have weapons OK

PeregrineV · Post by **PeregrineV** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:50 pm

Weapons for the purpose of weapon focus, but not for purposes of the "magic weapon" spell, right? My Archon Hound (?) gets the message of not having a weapon when I cast the spell on it.

Post by **Zing** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:56 pm

Your dog has no weapon....

Yeah last time I threw him one the lazy s-o-b refused to fetch it...

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:31 pm

ok....back to the ? kromix had a while back about summons..is the death domain avatar of the cleric supposed to be a familiar and disabled?

Post by **Zing** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:38 pm

I posted the update as a 'small' enhancement in an attempt to resolve the worst issue (bonus stat losses) and have a quick poke at the PvP XP loss thing.

I need to discuss the Cleric options with the other Dev's before anything is done there.

So to answer your question directly - looking at this is on the 'to do' list.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:48 pm

ok, good enough. was just wondering since it is a "gains power as you do" kind of avatar like the BG fiend, SD shadow, and PM undead.

KST_HAVOK · Post by **KST_HAVOK** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:53 pm

oh man if this comes into effect then the death and Magic domain clerics focoused in evocation and necro would PWN!!!!!

Man immagine a cleric with epic mummy dust fully buffed with a cleric with a barrage of damage spells comming in from the background

that would roxors

MLoki · Post by **MLoki** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:18 pm

What about being able to give your summons items like you can for henchmen in the single player campaign? That would solve the damage problem and when you summons died or was unsummoned the items could just drop to the ground. Just a though.

MLoki