Losing XP during PvP

$chase$ · Post by **$chase$** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:41 pm

thought i knew..but i dont,
i tested this with 4 different players and a dm..i killed all of them and no xp loss..still looking into it

Zaranthys Rivermoon · Post by **Zaranthys Rivermoon** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:07 am

$chase$ wrote:thought i knew..but i dont,
i tested this with 4 different players and a dm..i killed all of them and no xp loss..still looking into it

Maybe it has something to do with specific types of summons *and* the lvl of the PC being killed by such summons?

I ask because the other day Melencia was raided by a high lvl PM, accompanied by his summoned lich. A 14 lvl bard assisted in the defense of Melencia - she fell twice at the hands of the summoned lich and each time she lost 700 XPs (and gold as well) ...

$chase$ · Post by **$chase$** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:53 am

this is not a summons kll...this was a player kill player

Zaranthys Rivermoon · Post by **Zaranthys Rivermoon** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:44 am

$chase$ wrote:this is not a summons kll...this was a player kill player

Well, she said the summoned lich killed her - in any case, she lost 700 xps both times ...

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:04 am

summons take xp because they are NPC's...

lordvan52681 · Post by **lordvan52681** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:24 pm

you misunderstood Chases reply Z; the original event was not a summons kill. It happened when 2 players killed another player and each time he lost xp.

As per your friend, unfortunately summons still cause xp loss =(

Zaranthys Rivermoon · Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:58 pm

lordvan52681 wrote:you misunderstood Chases reply Z; the original event was not a summons kill. It happened when 2 players killed another player and each time he lost xp.

As per your friend, unfortunately summons still cause xp loss =(

Oh! Then my apologies to all ... and to Chase as well o'course! :wink:

ihuntudown · Post by **ihuntudown** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:44 pm

maybe a stupid idea, but the pvp i talked about was while i was in combat with other creatures. Maybe the other person was in combat with something else as well durining his/her pvp. So isn't it possible due the heartbeat script and some minor lags following by that it by any reason i don't know the scripting cuasing to make that faulure. Or like a ''defending you city from an invader'' script, that went outta control?

Zaranthys Rivermoon · Post by **Zaranthys Rivermoon** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:25 am

ihuntudown wrote:maybe a stupid idea, but the pvp i talked about was while i was in combat with other creatures. Maybe the other person was in combat with something else as well durining his/her pvp. So isn't it possible due the heartbeat script and some minor lags following by that it by any reason i don't know the scripting cuasing to make that faulure. Or like a ''defending you city from an invader'' script, that went outta control?

Exactly ...

Unless losing xps in a 'PvP' from a summons from the enemy PC is 'tough luck - that's how it is and buck up!' kinda thing?

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:00 pm

You know, I think Chase is just evil enough to be carrying around weapons with xp and gold drain on it :mrgreen:

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Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:46 pm

Zaranthys Rivermoon wrote:
ihuntudown wrote:maybe a stupid idea, but the pvp i talked about was while i was in combat with other creatures. Maybe the other person was in combat with something else as well durining his/her pvp. So isn't it possible due the heartbeat script and some minor lags following by that it by any reason i don't know the scripting cuasing to make that faulure. Or like a ''defending you city from an invader'' script, that went outta control?

Unless losing xps in a 'PvP' from a summons from the enemy PC is 'tough luck - that's how it is and buck up!' kinda thing?

i don't think anyone knows, but today some bonebag named 'Hamin Fryar' PK'd my party (his level~32, our levels 17~19) and at least one of us lost XP! He waited until we finished fighting our mob so that didn't do it...

As for summons: I have done some testing on summons-kills, and I setup the EXACT same situation many many times, using: Gate, Summon creature and summon greater undead... All 3 summons caused XP loss, about 50% of the time, it doesn't make sense that it would be random like that? This was during off-peak times, within the Brethren guild house (so lag wasn't a factor).

As for pc's using summons for PK (or attacking you while you are fighting creatures): My policy is to either 1.heal as needed, 2.run away or if i'm REALLY pissed off: LOG OFF. That is if the summons is overwealmingly strong (ie: solars and balors) - i don't feel like losing hours of work just so some shut-in can get his rocks off.

Though, if it is role-played properly instead of just arena-style, then I will stand and fight, then if I die, just get rezzed by another Brethren.