PaleMaster Question.

[Amoenotep]

i level'd 2 of those chars...one was better than the other. i looked at a few of your PM's various players built on this server...each had strengths and weaknesses....each one could be take down oh so easy before the pm nerf, but players didn't capitalize on it.

once teh nerf came out everyone jumped on those new immunities....and you never countered. both of my PM's were half ogre str based massive toons. could tank HoD single handedly and live where the bard/pm uber tank would die. he was the first to kill the earth plane boss solo (many times over) and in a contest defeated earth and fire before finally being taken down by air.....one after the other in continuous combat.

now tell me how much PM's suck.

[Quiett]

Immune to crit. The misc immunes plus the summon. The total +8 or +10 ac.

Pick one to lose, then you can have additions to the other abilities.

Yep, didn't think so

That's pretty much why I started this thread. If I go 'meh' when I get the lvl 30 or 40 summon, then yes, lose the summon. I'll take the Undead dragon deamon lich shape behind door #2!

[disastro]

i level'd 2 of those chars...one was better than the other. i looked at a few of your PM's various players built on this server...each had strengths and weaknesses....each one could be take down oh so easy before the pm nerf, but players didn't capitalize on it.

once teh nerf came out everyone jumped on those new immunities....and you never countered. both of my PM's were half ogre str based massive toons. could tank HoD single handedly and live where the bard/pm uber tank would die. he was the first to kill the earth plane boss solo (many times over) and in a contest defeated earth and fire before finally being taken down by air.....one after the other in continuous combat.

now tell me how much PM's suck.

yep i had a few such pm ubertanks. they always had weaknesses even pre nerf... i think only two people i ever fought pre-nerf ever used them against me (and they were quite effective i have to say. the nerfs were hardly necessary to take down a well built pm if you gave it any thought whatsoever). even post nerf only one person figured it out in pvp, though i didnt play much just before the wipe. im also working on a similar concept that doesnt involve pm at all.

part of the problem is that some people want wins handed to them or made extremely obvious. they dont want to spend time thinking of a counterstrategy or counterbuild.

[Frendel]

I've never had the lvl 40 summon from the PM, but I did have a PM before the most recent wipe, which got me hooked on trying to get this crazy holy grail of summons. I had the build all wrong before though and am kinda glad I had to start over because now my build completely rocks at lvl 30 (imo). I'm set to have around 84+ ac at lvl 40. Not to say I have made the end all best build for a PM, but I do think to get the full potential out of it you'll need to think outside the normal caster box.

Frendel