MA and Nexus logging

Post by **Umpa** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:13 pm

Well I have accumulated several Screen shots at this point, and I am getting a bit ticked, the threat of posting them doesn't seem to get peoples attention. Perhaps I have this wrong, would a DM please go over the rule about parking characters in the NEXUS and logging them in the MA flag room, on a relog to counter a relic raid. So far I have Achilies tonight, and several others from previous nights. I'm not trying to get anyone banned or deleveled, but would it be possible to have the rules clearly stated about the conditions of relogging 1 zone away when there is code that keeps others from doing this. This is a huge issue with the MA flag: Other issues...

1) They have 1 bridge to their tower, in or out that we can use, that comes in from town. This is a double choke since they have 2 bridges, one after the other with an autoshutting door between them.
2) One gate that is useable to get to the town.
3) A portal that allows them to see when your coming in with a nice big flashy graphic.
4) A nexus right next to the flag, that they use repeatedly.
5) Guards that have real True Site, like AO but unlike everyone else, their guards have significant resists to death spells.
6) Guards that are immune to wail from a scroll which most don't
7) PM's that can not be stunned.
8 Pm's that can not be critted.
9) Pm's that chain smoke more pots then I think I've ever purchased, with very little anyone can do about it till 10 more log in from the nexus or wherever.

Is this fair? Not really, but I'm really tired of the constant cheaters on MA, full time. Please ask me to post the SS's. I'm not going to, but this is a serious issue, notice the 15 MA people and, 15 others on from othre alliances. Do the Devs and DMs not see this? Everyone sees the advantages of MA, the newbies sure do. So, could we please get this straight and from that point I'll take new SS's if they continue.

I would personally take the Bard class away from MA to balance out the huge benefit they get from the PM class, but thats just me.

mgrjebbo · Post by **mgrjebbo** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:55 pm

they dont seem like the singing bunch to me either but thats ok. not everything is fair and it seems that some do raid effectivly.

the tactic i liked the most that they have used is to have 5 people all sitting around the last guard in the cradle room healing him until others arrive to kill you.

i found that very funny, and inovative. good tactics.

Post by **Sparky** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:18 pm

Well, the nexus issue is an excellent point that will be looked into. As far as:

I'm not going to, but this is a serious issue, notice the 15 MA people and, 15 others on from othre alliances. Do the Devs and DMs not see this? Everyone sees the advantages of MA, the newbies sure do.

That's just the Ebb and flow of the server. Most of the factions in the 13 months since the relic system has been live have dominated the game at some point, and people have bandwagoned to them. Such is the flow of the game. Eventually MA will wane in power as well and someone else will rise and the requisite bandwagoners will join the fun.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:26 pm

ok this is where the rule laywering should come in.

Technically zong realized it was a unfair advantage to log into a area wiht a relic or close by there. Hence the script if u log in when your cradle is being raided then you will be warpet away.

Now with the above script they have tried to eliminate the cheapness of defending from all factions.

Now i am sure that they didnt think that in leu of the nexus getting put in MA there would ever be this type of descrepency whith defending.

Now this should also follow the common sense rule as well. If there was a cript put in place that would allow a character not to be able to log into a area without penalties when there is a loophole.

Loopholes are way around rules .... technically a exploit of the riginal rule. So bu doing this it is a exploit since they -KNOW- they should not be able to.

Now before the lawyers come in and say if we shouldnt be able to do so then y can we. Well zing is only human after not god...... he can make mistakes ... doesnt mean they need to be exploited.

This also should go along wiht the flow of the community rule. This is causing others not to have fun. Not just me but countless others. This is also another rule which is stated in the commandments.

so by them doing this all of the MD who have been caught doint this should have 2 strikes against them right?

So should this also mean that anything else they do to break a rule after being caught doing this hould permit a ban?

Clarafiacition needs to be made cause if this can slide then i would hate to see what else happens that can be loophoioeld around the "common sense rule"

Post by **LinuxPup** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:32 pm

Well, if parking in the nexus isn't allowed and gets fixed, don't forget the other factions that can and do this same thing.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:33 pm

LinuxPup wrote:Well, if parking in the nexus isn't allowed and gets fixed, don't forget the other factions that can and do this same thing.

Of corse but what other factions do this?

This would eba all around rule ... noone is picking on MA

Coral · Post by **Coral** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:09 am

i would agree with havok, but i can't understand half the stuff he says cause his grammar and spelling are so bad... and YES, i am fluent in internet gibberish. for moradin's sake havok, try to make it readable man. the other illegal thing i see outta MA (not MD that i am aware of) is the PP of dead bodies. that urg guy with the stale 6wiz, 4fighter, 30 PM build apparently has done this to a couple people. not sure if they got SS or not but i told them to. that crap should be instant ban since it is clearly stated.

as far as all the suggestions/complaints, the one i agree with is the portal into the relic room, and the 2 bridges for bottlenecks, and the 3 doors (gate, into tower, into upper tower). seems like a lot, but i think MA needs all the help they can get. they never keep relics when more than 2 BB attack at once. or possibly a cool down period on time stop... i crash half the time eben spams it, and there is no way to counter this approach.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:53 am

counter spell counters time stop....but...no one uses it

Ebenezer Grymm · Post by **Ebenezer Grymm** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:59 am

I wasn't gonna reply but, lol

Nexus logging should be fixed, I absolutely agree with that. I personally can't do it with Eb because even at 40 an unbuffed wiz gets hurt pretty quick in there, and can't summon the mummy in combat with the nexus guards.

Most of your gripes seem to be about the landscape. And mostly from shadow dancers because they know that I can judge where they are and hit aoe spells on them with it. If I have see invis on, and a door opens and i dont see anyone, I'm spamming Horrid Wiltings and neg bursts, not necessarily in that order. Deal with it.

The portals in our relic room are abused constantly by raiders, zoning back and forth much like a lot of people (not me i swear i've NEVER done it) zone back and forth between area transitions.

And as far as my timestops, Coral has said it himself to me plenty of times, at some point I'm gonna run out of time crystals. But I only use TS against SD's anyway because I can freeze them in a spot I know they are in and AoE them to death, before they start chugging pots and spamming heal kits.

It's great that MA has you people talking, when I 1st joined the server so long ago there was NO MA. Now we're hot cause we're fly, u ain't cause u not, this is why this is why this is why we're hot

millbo · Post by **millbo** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:02 am

OMG... as if that song wasnt bad enough already ... lol

Ebenezer Grymm · Post by **Ebenezer Grymm** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:08 am

LoL I hate it too but I had it stuck in my head all day.

chubbs · Post by **chubbs** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:25 am

another problem ive had with MA is the iron golem that keeps blocking the pathway to the tower door. one of the golems see me and the other walks to him to see whats up or whatever and then i cant get through. then im attacked by a fireball, setting off the fighting music which alarms anyone in the city that theres an intruder. has this happened to anyone else invised or hiding?

it really bugs me and being a mage, id rather not waste spells.

Nyeleni · Post by **Nyeleni** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:05 am

Heh, yes, that happened to me too. I just run a bit around and get them distracted. Eventually you can get in. Not really a bug though...

And Eben, you dont use TS only against SD. Maybe your intention is to use them only then, but we all know, it's not true.

Nexus logging: Enough said. Will be certainly looked into. Btw. PLEASE SPELL CHECK Ascendancy TOO, when you're changing this stuff. It's not nice to get Ascendency or other words like that constantly yelled at you when you raid. The MA Nexus is spelled wrong too, last time I checked.

About the rest: Just deal with it. Neversummer isn't fair. Just get the superiour numbers and have fun in PVP. And don't forget it's only a game. If you start complaining only because you can't beat the other side, it's bad sport.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:09 am

if i see you relog into the nexus for easier access to relics...expect something bad to happen.

Ebenezer Grymm · Post by **Ebenezer Grymm** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:46 am

And after all they put me through, they'd think I despise them, but in the end I wanna thank them, cause they made M.D. that much stronger.

Cause it makes us that much stronger, makes us work a little bit harder, makes us that that much wiser, makes us learn a little bit faster, makes our skin a little bit thicker, makes us that much smarter so thanks for makin us fired up