Heal and Harm

Bariagan · Post by **Bariagan** » Sat May 01, 2004 1:02 pm

According to some of the posts and bug reports that I have read, heal and harm have been changed to do a certain amount, one mentioned 50 points for a level 16. Could someone explain the rationale behind this change as I am having trouble understanding it.

Gil-Este · Post by **Gil-Este** » Sat May 01, 2004 1:41 pm

i don't know if the devs changed heal and harm to correspond with the 3.5 PnP rules, but if they did (which makes sense because they seem to have done similarly in other things) then the changes are as follows. heal will heal 10 hitpoints per caster level to a maximum of 150 points at 15th level, and harm will deal 10 points of damage per level up to 150. the reason for this change is because a spell that lets you reduce a target of all but a tiny fraction of their hit points gives clerics a somewhat heightened ability to beat foes who normally would be too tough for them to hope to bring to their knees by conventional damage alone.

Bariagan · Post by **Bariagan** » Sat May 01, 2004 2:39 pm

Thank you for the response, hopefully that is the case as it is still useful but not exceedingly powerful. Guess I won't need to argue the weaknesses and difficulties of harm after all. Now I just ned to reach a high enough level to use it.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Sat May 01, 2004 6:49 pm

Gil-Este wrote:i don't know if the devs changed heal and harm to correspond with the 3.5 PnP rules, but if they did (which makes sense because they seem to have done similarly in other things) then the changes are as follows. heal will heal 10 hitpoints per caster level to a maximum of 150 points at 15th level, and harm will deal 10 points of damage per level up to 150. the reason for this change is because a spell that lets you reduce a target of all but a tiny fraction of their hit points gives clerics a somewhat heightened ability to beat foes who normally would be too tough for them to hope to bring to their knees by conventional damage alone.

So if the enemy shouldn't be beaten that easily, give them harm immunity

Post by **Lokey** » Sat May 01, 2004 10:25 pm

Nothing more boring than blanket immunity.

Agent Shiny · Post by **Agent Shiny** » Sun May 02, 2004 3:55 am

that is why the harm spell was suppose to have a save right? =P