Timestop on respawn...

[Poet]

I have a question concerning timestop and since it is still fairly new this may actually just be starting to happen. I was timestopped in a relic raid by a party who had several people using timestop and what they would do is wait until they had killed you by several of them using timestop right in a row and then timestop you when you respawned so that you spawned in front of them unbuffed. Is this legal? I"m not complaining..it worked rather well. Too well actually but hey if it's legal then I am surely going to implement it into my gameplay as well..if it isn't, then we may need to ask for a posting regarding this. Thanks!

[Sparky]

Intentionally trying to bypass the respawn mechanics(system) would be a violation of Commandment #3, and as such, is not a recommended usage of the spell.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

[kingfatzo]

IMO - anything that effects or hinders anyone in the reswpan procedure in ANY way and done intentionally should be considered innapropriate behavoir.....

for example, if you were in a group and were the first to die, and respawned while other members of your group were fighting and a enemy caster fired a TS as you respawned, then that enemy is not at fault because he is simply continuing battle with your living teammates..

however, if for example it is a 1 on 1 -you against a TS mage and he TS;s you as you respawn that is unfar..that delay could end up costing you in the long run ---

same concept if someone pulls a called shot, stunning fist on you or fires a BB as you are respawning....that is nothing more than SPITE....and it is obviously intentional if preformed because you have to manually fire that BB or stunning fist at the person as they respawn at the right time.....

edit: hehee seems lathander beat me to it by moments

[Thorac]

Yer have to say i was in this fight and respawning when there is still fighting going on might not be the safest idea because if you are standing you are an enemy buffed or not , may i suggest waiting till combat is done or until combat is away from your body.

[TGPO]

Yikes, this is a curious thing indeed. Thanks for bringing it up Poet.

*whistles sharply* Oh Devs ....

Doing this intentionally would definetly be a breach of conduct. The timing of doing do boggles the mind though, Respawn takes 1/2 of a combat round while T.S. takes a full combat round to get off. However respawn should not get caught in the effect in the first place, I can see where some of the more zealous PvP players might really use this to ruins someones day, by doing just as Poet said, spamming the spell and holding a person there.

[randdo]

I think that those who got caught by the spell while rezing was due to being over zelous in the desire to respawn and get back into battle.

I never saw a Time Stop used during that battle unless there was an active combat going on. (monks making us run way to hard)

One does well to just lay there for a minute or so making sure it's safe to rez. I myself have been on the recieving end of a blow on rez (rez killed), that was no fault of the player who pk'd me on rez. It was just bad timing and auto attack which is an unfortunate deadly combination. The player could not be faulted.

[$chase$]

well said

[Gornickthy]

Kind of on the same topic I have seen this happen with Stone Hold also. The player respawning got caught by the Stone Hold and was left there unbuffed and ready for the slaughter. I am not sure if this was a known issue, but I figured I would throw it out there just in case.

[MLoki]

I believe stonehold is a known issue and I often tell players who are stuck in a stonehold cloud to wait out the effect before trying to respawn. I know the Timestop thing did happen to me several times in that fight as well but I was unsure if it was intentional or not. The one time I witnessed Poet get caught during Timestop it seemed things had calmed for a moment before she respawned as several enemies were standing around her fallen body before she respawned and got caught in the Time Stop effect. Wouldn't Auto Quicken bring Timestop back to a half round action similiar to respawning? Not sure if this makes the possibility of timing this kind of thing workout or not. However with as many Timestops as there were last night It seemed as though we were standing still last night. I believe at least 3-4 enemy casters had this option available to them and would often spam them together or even one after the other just to hold us there. It was quite a fight and I do give props to whoever managed to bring that many people together to go against us.

MLoki

[Lorkar1]

Quick question while on this topic. Does timestop drop a PC out of combat?

[Trogdorbob]

My two cents... Me being in the fight last night, not a problem. Some die some dont. I still got the satisfaction of knockin off one toon once in a while. Having played before timestop came around and now playing with timestop, I personally think that theres enough spells out there to implement a good wizard or sorc. I personally think that timestop should be abolished. Granted the wiz is fairly weak in the hp department and in the AB department as well. I think there are some that may and have found ways to exploit this spell and make it seems as if it is not. I MY OPINION!!

other than that. BURN ALL THE PEASANTS HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA


oooooo is that a donut.

[JesterOI]

Considering the amount of timestops that went off and the chaos of the battle, I highly doubt any of them were intentional.

Besides, the only point in doing so it to tick off the other player, at the cost of resources and time.

Respawn takes 1/2 of a combat round while T.S. takes a full combat round to get off.

With auto quicken it takes half a combat round to activate Time Stop, doesn't it?

[Poet]

Just to reiterate...I wasn't stating that it was intentional for them to timestop me while respawning although there was just a group standing around me with nothing else going on when it happened lol... but I was just wanting clarification for it in future use because it worked really well! Also just bringing up the multiple party members spamming the timestop as a possible problem even with lag or such.

[n00bie]

with so many lawyer kind of player. itll be hard to prove if it was intentional or not. since ScreenShot wont prove anything. theyll just say " oh but we were still battling so and so." unless you run a frap to capture the event in order to prove if it was intentional or not.

better yet. its better not to respawn if a mage/mages are spamming TS or those spells that turn you to stone. respawn only when battle is done. that also goes on not rezzing ppl while TS/stone spells are flying all around.

[TGPO]

I appreciate Poet bringing this up, however further debate seems rather pointless. We can hope that we can pry the devs loose of NWN2 for a little while and try to tackle the problem of TS and Stone Hold affecting respawning characters.