massive xp lose

Thorac · Post by **Thorac** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:23 am

ok i dont wanna wine or complain but i dont mind loosing the odd 3000 xp to a crash but i just lost 26000xp i think that is way beyond a joke in anyone language. now i know the rule is no giving back items and xp with a crash but i had used my book and rested many times before the crash, i would say this is prob a 1 of but on a ecl3 charrie 26k is a big swag of time.

i would like some feed back please

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:13 pm

log off every so often to save your stuff

It's all over the forums, but it needs to be put on the New Player guide too.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:16 pm

logging off is the only true way i think that your char is actually saved. logging off before resets and sometimes you can log off before the server fully crashes. catch it in the lag spike and log out...i've never ever ever had this problem since i've played. i always log before everything goes down hill fast.

better to be safe than sorry.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:21 pm

just as an aside...did you just lose xp or items too? did anything change recently as in have you picked up any new gear or anything....well...was the loss just xp or xp and gear?

Post by **cely** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:43 pm

I sold some stuff to the FD merchant prior to a crash last night. Zoned, rested and used my journal several times over the next 15 minutes or so, but no logging. After the crash, I lost my xp and the gold I received from the FD merchant, but gained the items back that I had previously sold 15 minutes earlier.

Also, some more information to chew on... I was in the Sleeth Foothills with the RK relic when the server crashed. Post crash, the RK relic magically appeared in the RK relic cradle (saved me some walking

). I thought that all the relics had been reset during the crash, but it turns out that all of the other relics had remained in the AO Relic Cradle. I think Winterhawk was also in transit with a relic during the crash. I wonder if that relic got ported to its home relic cradle as well.

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:50 pm

New Player Guide Lag section edited to reflect loss-during-crash issues.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:50 pm

when a relic is out of any cradle and the server resets or crashes it automaticallly goes home.

MasterYoda · Post by **MasterYoda** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:52 pm

from above u said uj used a book?

doesn't that auto log u in out?

and I allways relog when doing something significant to be sure.

and yeah if u catch the lag spike in time u can usually save ur xp with a quick relog.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:54 pm

said he used "his" book...as in the journal.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:57 pm

dunno how many times i have said this in posts, but

the only way to effectivly save your character is to re-log

i learnded the REALLLY hard way even with resting,booking and even dying once or twice::: pre-wipe i had lost over 70,000xp from a crash when i was grinding out xp in zons...less than 24 hours later i lost and additional 20k on that same toon (yes i had a whitness who probably still remembers...he didnt get off so easy either

)
.... SO ........your 26k is petty imo

but seriously -- my suggestion is to relog at the following times:

1. every 30 - 45 minutes regardless of anything
2. when you level up
3. when you find a real nice piece of gear, especially after a planar boss or even moreso if you find a stat book.
4. after you sell or buy a load of stuff from a merchant
5. after crafting a MA level item, or a bulk of other crafted items...like wands ...etc...

Also -- people -- when xfering valuable stuff --- dont xfer lets say 5 books all at once and relog to grab your mule --- the server tends to crash at the worst possible time.. ( Karma

) ...and always remember , guild chests are not immune to crashes

i would rather spend the minimal ammount of time to relog frequently when playing, rather than take the chance of getting pWnd and loosing out on hours of gameplay time..... the journal/resting strategy does not always save you from a crash, BUT the relogging method has yet to fail me.

Blystos Re · Post by **Blystos Re** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:41 am

I believe this was my fault.
I used a book on Paris, my appologies to all affected.

It seemed as though it should have worked fine; I used it near a rift shard, the server only had about 20 people on. The server logged me out and back in with no problems, but crashed immediately after I got back in. Maybe next time I need to wait for a reset. I'll do my best to wait from now on.

Again, sorry.

~Re

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:42 am

maybe it was just a really freaky cooincidence

Blystos Re · Post by **Blystos Re** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:47 am

We'll find out soon enough, I'm not out of books by any means...

How about a warning on shout? We could test it, you know, in the name of science...

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:01 pm

aye , good idea indeed, players shouting that they are going to use a book, respawn their dead shifter...etc....

Thorac · Post by **Thorac** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:55 am

well guess what it happened again

worse than last time i have been logging out to save using book resting all the above but this time i lost everything went right back to when i first logged on got all old loot lost all potions i had bought it is like it just never saved my toon from when i first logged in(had logged out 2 times to save).