Relogging Question

KST_HAVOK · Post by **KST_HAVOK** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:15 am

ok just a question.....

Is it leagle to log on a LOWER level toon to extract revenge on someone.

for example if i am on lith my level 32 cleric and get pwned can i come back with my level 31 sorc to revenge kill ???

This happened last night and since there was no real ruile against it i just thought there needed to be clarification cause if this is the case we need to rewrite the rule inthe commandment

Lework · Post by **Lework** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:57 am

From what I understand relogging for revenge period is against the rules.

Post by **lordshelt** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:01 am

I agree, any relogging of new characters if it be lower or higher lvl for revenge is in bad taste but here is the stated ruling on it.

V. Thou shall not relog a higher level character to exact revenge on a lost fight. In the case of defending your town, this will be allowed if you do not change faction from one char to another

maybe, it will be revised...maybe not

Post by **TGPO** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:27 am

Thanks you for the question as it brings up a great example of what has been termed "Rules Lawyers". The reason why a definitive list of does and donts wont surface. Not say that was the intent here, its always better and appreciated when things get cleared up before they have the chance to become an issue.

It is the intent of the rules that is enforced. The rule was written after a watching multiple cases of more powerfull characters being logged in to exact revenge for a lost fight. The intent of the rule here is to prevent the issue of revenge logging regardless of level from coming up again.

On an interesting side note, when I was watching the events that led to the ruling a good 3/4 of the people that relogged for revenge were they themselves the ones that started the fight in the first place.

Kromix · Post by **Kromix** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:41 am

TGPO wrote: The intent of the rule here is to prevent the issue of revenge logging regardless of level from coming up again.

On an interesting side note, when I was watching the events that led to the ruling a good 3/4 of the people that relogged for revenge were they themselves the ones that started the fight in the first place.

so Relogging ANY lvl charachter, Higher or Lower, is breaking the server rules? (trying to make it clear)

this topic was brought up by havok after rdywillow was PKd Muliple times by me. Blackwillow, then Ting Tang, then }Roamy{. and all of those 3 toons came to try to pk me as soon as they where logged.

i'm not pointing fingers and trying to get ppl banned, this is the referenc to havok's post... and to clear up things for next happenings

$chase$ · Post by **$chase$** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:33 pm

NO revenge loggin

Post by **lordshelt** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:41 pm

Not that I don't trust your opinion and agree with it Chase but would like confirmation as to that being the intended meaning of TGPOs post since Kromix wasn't the only one confused by it. just wanna make sure we are all on the same paige

KST_HAVOK · Post by **KST_HAVOK** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:44 pm

TGPO wrote:Thanks you for the question as it brings up a great example of what has been termed "Rules Lawyers". The reason why a definitive list of does and donts wont surface. Not say that was the intent here, its always better and appreciated when things get cleared up before they have the chance to become an issue.

It is the intent of the rules that is enforced. The rule was written after a watching multiple cases of more powerfull characters being logged in to exact revenge for a lost fight. The intent of the rule here is to prevent the issue of revenge logging regardless of level from coming up again.

On an interesting side note, when I was watching the events that led to the ruling a good 3/4 of the people that relogged for revenge were they themselves the ones that started the fight in the first place.

i think i need an anti -confusion pill

Kromix · Post by **Kromix** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:04 pm

/me thinks TGPO is involved in politics... it takes 3 hours of close study and 5 people to interpret 20 different versions just to the point that noone ever understands anything thus postponing the answer a few more days back... :/ a filibuster...

ihuntudown · Post by **ihuntudown** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:40 pm

i was always told thats legal to re-log a lower level toon. But if i do in most cases i ask the person first if he minds that i relog a lower lvl toon.

Infact thats why i weren't lvling up alien 1 and 3 behind lvl 24....

Post by **TGPO** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:40 pm

Yes, thats the plain english version.

Revenge logging is a no no.

We all know that there are some really good builds out there that when they hit their stride can take out an average character that is 10 levels above it. The player who relogs ANY character with the intention of getting revenge on another, for the sole purpose of that revenge is in violation of the harrassment policy.

Kromix · Post by **Kromix** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:58 pm

/me Votes 4 a stickie!!!! we need to make this desition seen... (or update the commandments!)

KST_HAVOK · Post by **KST_HAVOK** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:28 pm

Kromix wrote:/me Votes 4 a stickie!!!! we need to make this desition seen... (or update the commandments!)

Yes considering some er.....higher powers were on when this took place and even they werent sure

Post by **TGPO** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:21 pm

Allright, a few PMs and getting hunted down in IRC by my team mates

I'll make an edit to the commandments this weekend, after I get the phrasing worked out in my head, and get the change to the devs for the next module build.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:44 pm

I don't see what the confusion is. It seems pretty clear to me from the Commandments, rules, etc. that relogging after being pked is illegal, unless you're defending your faction.