A Question About Crits - What Gets Multiplied?

Darksbane · Post by **Darksbane** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:47 am

Hey, I've got a Weapon Master, uses a Greatsword.
I'm convinced that my calculations for how much damage I should do on a Crit is different from what the game is giving me, so I'd like some clarification about what does and does not get multiplied.

Ok, I get a *3 crit modifier (WM class ability)

My damage is thus:

Base Damage: 2d6 (max 12)
Strength Bonus: 12
Weapon Bonus Damage: 2d6 (max 12)
Weapon Enhancement Bonus: 2
Bonus On Crit: 2d6 (max 12)

So, max Damage is 38 for a base hit.

When I use Ki Damage (WM ability, do max damage on successful hit), AND get a crit, this ought to mean a Crit of 126 (38*3+12). However, I find that (on creatures with a DR of about 20 points against slashing), I vary between 80 and 90 (I think the 2d6 bonus crit damage doesn't get maxed).
This gives me a damage shortfall of 20 odd points.
Something in here doesn't seem to be getting multiplied.
Any ideas?

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:06 am

Amount of dies get multiplied and any set damage amount is multiplied,
Example:

My Firey Scimitar on my level 1 fighter does:
1d6 base damage
+5 fire damage
It has a X2 multiplier, so critical hit hit damage would be:
1d6 + 1d6 + 5 + 5 = 2d6+10 damage or 12-22.

That's why you see odd numbered amounts of damage on even damage multipliers.

As for why you don't get max damage, ask bioware

satantrik · Post by **satantrik** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:27 pm

This is probably a dumb question, but are you reading the combat text and adding back in the damage that gets immunity'd/resisted? This might be where your missing damage is going.

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:29 pm

Ki damage only maxes the base damage of the weapon at this time (Thanks Bioware). All bonus damage is variable even with ki damage. Note that Sneak Attack damage is unaffected by critical multiplying; it is added afterwards.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:33 pm

So no Ki damage for your sneak attacks then?

Darksbane · Post by **Darksbane** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:35 pm

satantrik - Yeah, I'm remembering to factor in the damage immunity, this estimate is on Ogres (hunters and the like), which seem to resist about 20-25 points on a crit.

xerxes35 · Post by **xerxes35** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:39 pm

have to disagree on ki damage not maxing all damage types, mine appears to.. dont remember exact stats on weapon (imbued mithril warhammer, i think 1d10 base + 1d10 extra bludgeoning), but when i get multiple ki hits on the same critter it is always a constant number... unless i crit heh