Level Up Hitpoints

JoeFaust · Post by **JoeFaust** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:16 pm

Would it be possible to add a script such that you always get max possible HP on level up? It's really annoying, especially during lag, to repeatedly level up in order to get max HP.

Of course, if I'm the only one who cares enough to do this, then I'll shut up. But I somehow doubt it...

--JoeFaust

Sir Sean · Post by **Sir Sean** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:23 pm

Well. I'm not one of the Devs, just a DM, but my reaction to this is not just NO, but HELL NO!

If you want max hp, you need to go through the pain of doing your level over and over again. The game was never intended for everyone to have identical hitpoints; if it were, they wouldn't be rolling dice in the first place.

You want the extra HP, you take the extra time to get it. In my PnP game, they get what they roll.

Sir Sean, DM Starknight

JoeFaust · Post by **JoeFaust** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:31 pm

In Pen and Paper, I totally agree with you. In fact, I'd rather Bioware had made NWN roll hitpoints AFTER you've picked skills/feats/etc. Thus there would be no way to re-roll.

But, since re-rolling is possible, many people (everyone?) does it, therefore why make it a chore?

--JoeFaust

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:02 pm

You already get a minimum of (half your HD) + CON when you roll. Suffer if you have to have the maximum every level.

Editted because I thought it seemed vague. Parentheses work as they do in math. :)

JoeFaust · Post by **JoeFaust** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:05 pm

Ok, since I seem to be the only one who cares, I'll shut up now.

--JoeFaust

Dallas17 · Post by **Dallas17** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:28 pm

not scriptable anyways

Arjento · Post by **Arjento** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:56 pm

BTW, is the maximum +12 for ANY class?

Mokihana · Post by **Mokihana** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:24 pm

no i have a dwarven defender that gets 17 pts a level

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:29 pm

You can hack your 2DAs to get HD as high as you want (d50 or d99 is the max or something) but right now the highest HD for a Player Class is d12.

Mokihana · Post by **Mokihana** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:30 pm

oh oh hit die sorry i thought you were talking total points i was adding toughness and con bonus sorry

Dallas17 · Post by **Dallas17** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:42 pm

hehe, ever seen a level 1 on a server vault server with ELC with 250hp? funny.. especially when every DM around swarms you, hehe

Brelle · Post by **Brelle** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:16 pm

epic RDD has d15

Post by **Lokey** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:46 pm

Dallas17 wrote:not scriptable anyways

With the minimum hitpoints of half your hit die, it isn't as bad as it could be. Over 40 levels, it's the equivalent of maybe 4 epic toughness feats depending on size of hit die.

Multiplayer, there is no airtight way to fix. You can edit the GUIs and put them in a hak (you cover the hit die report field in the level-up report). Turns out to be a damn big file for such a small change--many GUIs are packed together--slightly over a meg of files.

But I'd rather be playing than leveling up 20 times in a row until max hitpoints show up...

Sagil · Post by **Sagil** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:49 am

I truely hate this hp rolling, wether in PnP or NWN.

For NWN I consider it the single most annoying thing there is. In PnP I usually give my players a fixed roll, namely the average (rounded up), so d4->3, d6->4, d8->5, d10->6 and d12->7. If it's not easy to script to some fixed number, the only hope I have is that someday Bioware will enable a server configuration that provides constant hp at level-up (be it max or average).

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:19 am

I care about max hps too but...Dont u see ur actual new hps After choosing feats skills etc?ccoz i do that all the time...first i pick everything else and then look at hp's...where can i see my Hp's b4 i start picking skills?