Artifacts....

Gumppy · Post by **Gumppy** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:10 pm

ok they are basically 1 step better than hands of master even bonus damage but no fire damage they give 1 better to ac same str, and i think 1 better to your att roll as well and yes you would think they follow the kobold,wolf, etc hide gloves yet they r more along the lines of monk gloves ?? as i said ive never seen before - found in ice efreet off a normal or elite 1 lol nearly left em cause they look like kobold hide gloves

Post by **DeputyDog** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:14 pm

To clear it up.

Not all artifacts are lvl 20+

Some are intended for low-mid level finds. Just to be interesting.

The rest are indeed better or as good as any planar items.

We are still tweaking where and how artifacts drop and the percentage chance you have to find them.

Bosses always will give a better chance of getting them as they would be the ones to obtain such an item. The other drops off of normal critters are just sheer luck.

Note. I have yet to find an artifact in my playing

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:42 pm

Gumppy wrote:ok they are basically 1 step better than hands of master even bonus damage but no fire damage they give 1 better to ac same str, and i think 1 better to your att roll as well and yes you would think they follow the kobold,wolf, etc hide gloves yet they r more along the lines of monk gloves ?? as i said ive never seen before - found in ice efreet off a normal or elite 1 lol nearly left em cause they look like kobold hide gloves

Yeah, I have a few pairs of those now... I DID notice them because I'm playing a BARD who can id everything, and because of those gloves, I am sure to check everything that drops - even things that look mundane. Such a clever way to make leveling much more interesting, and SLOWER sneaky devs SNEAKY!

DD: So... my guesses seem to be in line with reality... but does the CR of the mob effect the 'level' of artifact? 'zons drop level 9 and 13 artifacts, yet their CR is much higher... and I've found 4 +2 manuals, so the +4 and +6 ones would drop from planes mobs only, +6 being from plane bosses? so many questions, so little time to play/explore to find out.

Post by **Flailer** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:57 pm

Yes, the CR of the creature does effect the level of the drop. A mob has a chance of dropping an artifact 1 level *higher* than they normally should and then is weighted toward dropping an artifact around their level, but still has a chance of dropping an artifact rated any level below them. So, weighted, but randomized a bit.

The bell curve should smooth out a bit as we get more artifacts in there too. Right now there's still too few artifacts so the drops are a bit too clustered around certain levels of items. Hopefully soon...