Pure ranger?

[Shamed Monkey]

sounds to me like you all want a super class.

Ranger isn't at all very good in the first place Pure. Personally, HiPS has become enough of a problem that I like this idea, even with the fact that I play a HiPSer.

Anyway, Invisibility Purge is a double edged sword, as someone said. It's not party friend, nor is it caster friendly. Thus, it would be booting you (if you were in HiPS) and your entire party out of HiPS if you used it.

[-BannyD-]

ehh, i wouldnt want the actual spell "invisibility purge" to give that kind of power...its a lvl 4 spell that sorc/wiz/cleric have as well. i was thinking more of a pure ranger unique ability with just the invis purge visual (the dispel thing when it hits looks cool lol ).

and to all you skeptics...this would probably be their lvl 34 item, similar in use to the fighter kd token and whatnot...but this would probably have to last a few rounds as an aura upon use, or else it only hurts a Hipster for...1 hips.

the other abilities i would hope gave the ranger respectable defense so they can survive against other things besides SDs...just...its a ranger, the hunter class...they should have an ultimate hunt ability.

it could work the same way hellball and bigbys crushing hand and grease and whatnot take a HiPster out of stealth, but this would be an aura so if they were near, they wouldnt be able to hide. enemies only though...or else itd be dumb heh, why would a ranger give up the position of a friendly?...or, it could work by giving -127hide/ms to all enemies in the area as the enemy enters the aura and reapplying for each round they stay in the aura (preventing a simple restore pot from making this ability useless). i like giving it a slow side effect too, like..if they ranger would have spotted you before the aura, it slows you as well as taking away your stealth supremacy....or something, i dunno

i like rangers, give me good stuff LinuxPup

[Valhor]

ehh, i wouldnt want the actual spell "invisibility purge" to give that kind of power...its a lvl 4 spell that sorc/wiz/cleric have as well. i was thinking more of a pure ranger unique ability with just the invis purge visual (the dispel thing when it hits looks cool lol ).

and to all you skeptics...this would probably be their lvl 34 item, similar in use to the fighter kd token and whatnot...but this would probably have to last a few rounds as an aura upon use, or else it only hurts a Hipster for...1 hips.

the other abilities i would hope gave the ranger respectable defense so they can survive against other things besides SDs...just...its a ranger, the hunter class...they should have an ultimate hunt ability.

it could work the same way hellball and bigbys crushing hand and grease and whatnot take a HiPster out of stealth, but this would be an aura so if they were near, they wouldnt be able to hide. enemies only though...or else itd be dumb heh, why would a ranger give up the position of a friendly?...or, it could work by giving -127hide/ms to all enemies in the area as the enemy enters the aura and reapplying for each round they stay in the aura (preventing a simple restore pot from making this ability useless). i like giving it a slow side effect too, like..if they ranger would have spotted you before the aura, it slows you as well as taking away your stealth supremacy....or something, i dunno

i like rangers, give me good stuff LinuxPup

No way hehe, Fighters get an awesome KD token .. and rangers get a little weak unhips token? booo!

[Blystos Re]

Have the pure ranger un-HiPS token make the ranger play the "Look at this" voice command. Not like it adds any function, but it makes it sound cool.

[Shamed Monkey]

The idea is that only a Ranger's Purge unHiPSes people, Banny. And even then, only a level 40 Pure Ranger could unHiPS everyone, since I'm thinking it would be same level or lower.

[-BannyD-]

The idea is that only a Ranger's Purge unHiPSes people, Banny. And even then, only a level 40 Pure Ranger could unHiPS everyone, since I'm thinking it would be same level or lower.

ahh, well that could work too. especially since the spell slots you would put purge in are coveted for generally more useful stuff.

[-BannyD-]

No way hehe, Fighters get an awesome KD token .. and rangers get a little weak unhips token? booo!

Well last time I was on everyone was crying about how Manic is so good (guessing its Pielo MD...same build) but I still dont know why...this tool would make others laugh at SDs like I usually do heh. Most dont build for the right things.

[Bargeld]

and to all you skeptics...this would probably be their lvl 34 item, similar in use to the fighter kd token and whatnot...but this would probably have to last a few rounds as an aura upon use, or else it only hurts a Hipster for...1 hips.

The other tokens are useful for only a single hips as well. The difference is that there is a kd/paralyze/effect as well as stealth removal. I would think you would have a similar token to offer a similar ability. (and only fighters knock out of hips now)

the other abilities i would hope gave the ranger respectable defense so they can survive against other things besides SDs...just...its a ranger, the hunter class...they should have an ultimate hunt ability.

I tend to disagree here. Assassins are also considered the 'ultimate hunters'. I would say the big difference here is the wilderness vs urban background of the classes as well as their methodologies. Regardless, Assassins get UMD and c/c in order to aid their 'tracking' abilities. I would expect similar out of a ranger. Maybe a class specific UMD allowing access to cleric/druid spells/weapons/items?

it could work the same way hellball and bigbys crushing hand and grease and whatnot take a HiPster out of stealth, but this would be an aura so if they were near, they wouldnt be able to hide. enemies only though...or else itd be dumb heh, why would a ranger give up the position of a friendly?...or, it could work by giving -127hide/ms to all enemies in the area as the enemy enters the aura and reapplying for each round they stay in the aura (preventing a simple restore pot from making this ability useless). i like giving it a slow side effect too, like..if they ranger would have spotted you before the aura, it slows you as well as taking away your stealth supremacy....or something, i dunno

I think this basically describes the stealth component of the Aasimar aura... -40 or 50 to skill checks in aura. For everyone.

I hate quoting posts like that, as it looks like im nitpicking your post. I'm really just trying to compare to existing similar abilities and help build on some of the ideas

[-BannyD-]

haha its np, im no dev...but i still like trying to burn my ideas into the minds of other...either with words or hot pokers