Bigby Nerfs

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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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I disagree with the changes. You have nerfed so much already. If you keep nerfing what the hell are we going to be left with. Sticks and stones?

From my point of view, you made these changes because of a few that complained. I say to those who wanted it nerfed, if they don't like something, then go elsewhere. There are plenty of other servers out there.

Since I started I have been killed constantly by stunning fist etc. I got told, make a better toon, stop whining, or go. So I made a better toon and now you nerfed it. If your going to nerf bigby, then nerf stunning fist and all the other dazing, immobilizing spells.

Does anybody know of any good servers out there as I am looking elsewhere?.

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http://www.swtor.com/
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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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Revel wrote:I disagree with the changes. You have nerfed so much already. If you keep nerfing what the hell are we going to be left with. Sticks and stones?

From my point of view, you made these changes because of a few that complained. I say to those who wanted it nerfed, if they don't like something, then go elsewhere. There are plenty of other servers out there.

Since I started I have been killed constantly by stunning fist etc. I got told, make a better toon, stop whining, or go. So I made a better toon and now you nerfed it. If your going to nerf bigby, then nerf stunning fist and all the other dazing, immobilizing spells.

Does anybody know of any good servers out there as I am looking elsewhere?.
Find them for yourself... Really I begin to be aggravated by all this negative attitude (mainly one DUDE who doesn't want to discuss it and just should leave). The only solid argument I have heard so far: Sorcerers got hit hard. Other than that? Nothing really. The new bigbies have a huge potential.
You can't defend against dexxers or CoTs? If you cant beat CoTs just keep at them as long as you can and don't let them rest. It is tedious and there are quite a few ways which are better. But this method is a certainty at least.
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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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Nyeleni wrote:
Revel wrote:I disagree with the changes. You have nerfed so much already. If you keep nerfing what the hell are we going to be left with. Sticks and stones?

From my point of view, you made these changes because of a few that complained. I say to those who wanted it nerfed, if they don't like something, then go elsewhere. There are plenty of other servers out there.

Since I started I have been killed constantly by stunning fist etc. I got told, make a better toon, stop whining, or go. So I made a better toon and now you nerfed it. If your going to nerf bigby, then nerf stunning fist and all the other dazing, immobilizing spells.

Does anybody know of any good servers out there as I am looking elsewhere?.
Find them for yourself... Really I begin to be aggravated by all this negative attitude (mainly one DUDE who doesn't want to discuss it and just should leave). The only solid argument I have heard so far: Sorcerers got hit hard. Other than that? Nothing really. The new bigbies have a huge potential.
You can't defend against dexxers or CoTs? If you cant beat CoTs just keep at them as long as you can and don't let them rest. It is tedious and there are quite a few ways which are better. But this method is a certainty at least.
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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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so let me get this right...the overall effectiveness of bigby AS A WHOLE is a bit more balanced and AS A WHOLE got an upgrade, its nerfed?

the scripts were broken before, it checked skill vs ability mods, it made you take 2 different focuses for a single focus spell line..but you like it that way?

you like that your ability mod will never come close to the skill check they make against you and thats fine for you?

you like having to take 6 feats instead of 3 and thats better for your toon?

you like having the mod run several scripts for the same spell instead of just making it work a bit better?

do you make 3 left hand turns to make a right also?
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Yes??

No???


crap I don't know.... :(
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Amoenotep wrote:so let me get this right...the overall effectiveness of bigby AS A WHOLE is a bit more balanced and AS A WHOLE got an upgrade, its nerfed?

the scripts were broken before, it checked skill vs ability mods, it made you take 2 different focuses for a single focus spell line..but you like it that way?

you like that your ability mod will never come close to the skill check they make against you and thats fine for you?

you like having to take 6 feats instead of 3 and thats better for your toon?

you like having the mod run several scripts for the same spell instead of just making it work a bit better?

do you make 3 left hand turns to make a right also?
i drive a semi, 8-1/2 ft wide, 80ft long, you really want me to answer that?
spent an hour de-lvling my sorc, still not close to try out the
new bigbies but this is just gonna take to long

Oh well

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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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For those of you that thought this was out of the blue:

Posted on 02/24/2010
Amoenotep wrote:you can extend the forceful to make the kd last longer...which is funny.

the bigby line of spells is pretty shoddy right now and needs a complete redo, but i don't pay enough for a dev to do it :(
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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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BlkMamba wrote:
Nyeleni wrote:
Revel wrote:I disagree with the changes. You have nerfed so much already. If you keep nerfing what the hell are we going to be left with. Sticks and stones?

From my point of view, you made these changes because of a few that complained. I say to those who wanted it nerfed, if they don't like something, then go elsewhere. There are plenty of other servers out there.

Since I started I have been killed constantly by stunning fist etc. I got told, make a better toon, stop whining, or go. So I made a better toon and now you nerfed it. If your going to nerf bigby, then nerf stunning fist and all the other dazing, immobilizing spells.

Does anybody know of any good servers out there as I am looking elsewhere?.
Find them for yourself... Really I begin to be aggravated by all this negative attitude (mainly one DUDE who doesn't want to discuss it and just should leave). The only solid argument I have heard so far: Sorcerers got hit hard. Other than that? Nothing really. The new bigbies have a huge potential.
You can't defend against dexxers or CoTs? If you cant beat CoTs just keep at them as long as you can and don't let them rest. It is tedious and there are quite a few ways which are better. But this method is a certainty at least.
You can say my name, and yeah i am :D
I'm tired of making you chug pots anyhow
Im still waiting for that movie somebody from AO made of me chugging. I thought it was a fitting souvenir for me getting scarce on neversummer :).
And I have always a good reason to chug... At least I am convinced *chuckle.
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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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i still have it around here somewhere
if i ever bother to upload it, prolly have to wait till i get my version card from the house
when i get back, i got a laugh out of it anyhow

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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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btw...been almost 5 years to the day since joran sporked up bigby from bio default...yay for change!
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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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yep, something like that, bio default was nasty

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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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Starting to think the change to bigbies was done to revitalize forums. :lol:
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Made a forum troll out of me :lol:

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Re: Bigby Nerfs

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Just a suggestion
lvl 9 make it un-dismissable
put some anti stealth on it
either by lowering there hide ability or so they cant spam hips
increase the duration, give mages a shot against sd's

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