Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
Dex pally DWD:
Base 10 AC + 6 Armor + 5 deflect + 5 nat + 9 shield + 6 dodge + 15 dex + 10 div shield + 10 imp expertise = 76 ac (80 with +4 song) with a bunch of DI/DR (30 DWD gets a bonus DI from all physical). With robes and Shield DR. Can also get EDR if you can eek out enough con for it. Granted the ab and damage is next to useless, but that's not the point of this build. Oh yeah, and base DWD saves are fort & will + pally saves with +10 chr to bonus.
... just sayin'
Base 10 AC + 6 Armor + 5 deflect + 5 nat + 9 shield + 6 dodge + 15 dex + 10 div shield + 10 imp expertise = 76 ac (80 with +4 song) with a bunch of DI/DR (30 DWD gets a bonus DI from all physical). With robes and Shield DR. Can also get EDR if you can eek out enough con for it. Granted the ab and damage is next to useless, but that's not the point of this build. Oh yeah, and base DWD saves are fort & will + pally saves with +10 chr to bonus.
... just sayin'
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Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
I think you forgot to include tumble in AC.Bargeld wrote:Dex pally DWD:
Base 10 AC + 6 Armor + 5 deflect + 5 nat + 9 shield + 6 dodge + 15 dex + 10 div shield + 10 imp expertise = 76 ac (80 with +4 song) with a bunch of DI/DR (30 DWD gets a bonus DI from all physical). With robes and Shield DR. Can also get EDR if you can eek out enough con for it. Granted the ab and damage is next to useless, but that's not the point of this build. Oh yeah, and base DWD saves are fort & will + pally saves with +10 chr to bonus.
... just sayin'
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Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
You are correct sir! Add in another 20 (maybe 40) tumble = 4 or 8 AC.
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Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
DWD's arent about AC anyway. If you'r dwd fails in HoD don't assume everybody's will. Some people can build better then others.
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Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
Also, some people don't make implodeable DWDs, such as Awake, who I presume was the DWD with you, just by virtue of its level.
A good DWD can solo Draco because it uses Azer and Paladin damage shields while chugging madly, I'd presume.
A good DWD can solo Draco because it uses Azer and Paladin damage shields while chugging madly, I'd presume.
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I think you need to do some rechecking on what a DwD can do. They don't need ac. Properly equipped it is the tank of choice in most high level areas. You cant ac tank many of the new uber bosses, but you can set a DwD in front of them and and let them pound the crap out of him for round after round.Twiggy wrote:oh and mining i have never fought draco lich, so i can't see how this would be possible. a lvl 30 dwd would be easily dispellable, so there must be no magic there. and his damage must not have crited very often. can dwd's get over 65 ac?
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This whole chugging deal stems from the fact that some people hate to lose. When they had the numbers they didnt resort to this tactic because they didn't need to. Currently they are using the excuse that CoT's/Shifters/PDK's are broken and overpowered so chugging isn't a slimy tactic, "its all we have left to remain competitive". I don't fully understand why they don't use mages to nullify pdk'ss, CoT's, and shifters's, a general lack of intelligence or ingenuity i suppose....... <-- I thought that was funny
They know chugging pisses you off and I fully expect them to stay on late into the night crafting full heal pots in an effort to annoy you even more since you posted about it.
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Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
But oh so true 8(
For the record, CoT's, shifters, and PDKs ARE ridiculously overpowered.
For the record, CoT's, shifters, and PDKs ARE ridiculously overpowered.
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Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
I remember a long time ago posting about gear. How eventually if gear kept being increased in power it would lead to a 3.5 esk Looney toon server.
Now no one can kill each other... funny that.
Back in the good old days of +4, it didn’t matter how many pots you had. Even when they were all 100% effective you still got owned if your build sucked.
Now that all being said... all I have to say is seriously? If you don’t like pot chuggers don’t fight them. If you’re raiding and their defending find something else to do. It’s a big server ladies and gentlemen. Just because you don’t like their play style doesn’t mean there needs to be a rules or code change.
Pardon me while I start a Defender with ele resist who does nothing but chug...that sounds like fun!
Now no one can kill each other... funny that.
Back in the good old days of +4, it didn’t matter how many pots you had. Even when they were all 100% effective you still got owned if your build sucked.
Now that all being said... all I have to say is seriously? If you don’t like pot chuggers don’t fight them. If you’re raiding and their defending find something else to do. It’s a big server ladies and gentlemen. Just because you don’t like their play style doesn’t mean there needs to be a rules or code change.
Pardon me while I start a Defender with ele resist who does nothing but chug...that sounds like fun!
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rofl all it took to get jebbo back was find a way for him to annoy peoplemgrjebbo wrote: Pardon me while I start a Defender with ele resist who does nothing but chug...that sounds like fun!
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We all use the tools we were given my friend.
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chugging is lame
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Re: Seriously guys, quit chugging in pvp.
not that this post is about dwd's, but i know what they are for.
i don't remember name of toon but i know it wasn't awake. and he was most likely getting owned because of lack of gear.
50 max resistance damage plus a certain amount of immunity i would guesstimate around maybe 70-80 dr on a lvl 40 toon.....bah i really don't care about continuing this. Just know that I know what a dwd can do and what it's purpose is for. And also I will never be happy because this game doesn't conform to my ideas of what should happen. and everyone knows I know best
i don't remember name of toon but i know it wasn't awake. and he was most likely getting owned because of lack of gear.
50 max resistance damage plus a certain amount of immunity i would guesstimate around maybe 70-80 dr on a lvl 40 toon.....bah i really don't care about continuing this. Just know that I know what a dwd can do and what it's purpose is for. And also I will never be happy because this game doesn't conform to my ideas of what should happen. and everyone knows I know best
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70-80 dr, LOL!
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I wouldnt go so far as to say useless...Bargeld wrote:Dex pally DWD:
Base 10 AC + 6 Armor + 5 deflect + 5 nat + 9 shield + 6 dodge + 15 dex + 10 div shield + 10 imp expertise = 76 ac (80 with +4 song) with a bunch of DI/DR (30 DWD gets a bonus DI from all physical). With robes and Shield DR. Can also get EDR if you can eek out enough con for it. Granted the ab and damage is next to useless, but that's not the point of this build. Oh yeah, and base DWD saves are fort & will + pally saves with +10 chr to bonus.
... just sayin'
10(divine might) +2d6(hlysword vs evil) +5(divine favour) +3(prayer) just from self buffs... thats a whole lot more then most
30 base bab + 15 dex +3 Dfavour +3 prayer +8(weapon) +4feats = 63 selfbuffed ....67 with bardsong. thats none to shabby i must say
edit* of forgot about blindspeed too* another 2ac 1ab
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