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Wow, I just lost the last respect I had left for Terminal Insanity. I have not donated anything myself "yet" but cannot see anything wrong with rewarding the ones that do. Those that pay actually pays for us nonpayers to play here. Terminal has been playing here for 4 years wihtout donating and living on other persons donations and now he complains about it :roll:

I am glad that Neversummr is open for everyone without a montly fee and I am sure this only works as long as some donate to at least cover the cost of the servers and network. And I see no problem in if they also earn a little to compensate for the huge amount of hours spend developing this place.

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terminalinsanity wrote:It had nothing to do with me being banned, i posted it before i was banned.
I guess ntpd must be messed up on either www.nsrealm.com or nwn.bioware.com...

www.nsrealm.com: Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: rejoice!
nwn.bioware.com: Posted: Wednesday, 04 January 2006 11:06PM

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i was temp banned on the server, i posted the first message
i was perm banned on the server and forums, i posted the detailed message.

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Epistaxis wrote:Wow, I just lost the last respect I had left for Terminal Insanity. I have not donated anything myself "yet" but cannot see anything wrong with rewarding the ones that do. Those that pay actually pays for us nonpayers to play here. Terminal has been playing here for 4 years wihtout donating and living on other persons donations and now he complains about it :roll:

I am glad that Neversummr is open for everyone without a montly fee and I am sure this only works as long as some donate to at least cover the cost of the servers and network. And I see no problem in if they also earn a little to compensate for the huge amount of hours spend developing this place.
There is a difference.
When you go to blockbuster, do you just donate some money to them and they reward you with a movie? LOOK AT THE DAMN PRICE CHART! I dont care if they stick the word "Donations" in there. ITS NOT A DONATION if you are receving something in return. Just look at the damn donation page!

Here is an example of a REAL donations page:
http://www.brandonu.ca/library/donations.html
Here is an example of a sale page:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... p?CatId=17

What does NS's donation page resemble the most?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=donation
do·na·tion
1. The act of giving to a fund or cause.
2. A gift or grant.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sale
sale
1. The exchange of goods or services for an amount of money or its equivalent; the act of selling.
2. An instance of selling.

And why on earth would i donate to a server when literaly, all the DM interaction i get is threats bans delevels etc... I honestly was thinking about it, but that was before i lost 3 levels for harmless spells in avendell. Willow left because of the EXACT same thing. DMs would always rag on him for doing things others were allowed to do.

I PK some lowbie, and i get messages from DMs telling me not to or ill be banned. WHILE KST IS RIGHT BESIDE ME IN MY PARTY PKING THE SAME PEOPLE.

And how dare you tell me i've been playing on NS off other people's money. THEY ARE DONATIONS, what part of "Donate" do you not understand? This is not a pay-to-play service. Players can play on the server all day/night without sending a single penny, and you have NO right to say anything like that to them.

'Donations' payed for 4 bloody servers... where did they all go?! There used to be 4 of them... 2... 1... I mean, the bloody powersupply "Failed" what, 3 times in 2 months? I call BS! That DOES NOT HAPPEN unless the power line its hooked up to is faulty, and since its in a huge datacenter, i HIGHLY doubt it is the power line. They say "servers stress out the PSU more" BS!!! I have a powersupply sitting in a box right beside me, that i got with my 150mhz cpu, and its now running a 1.6ghz system, with 5 PCI cards, a AGP card, 3 harddisks, 2 burners, and its STILL WORKING.

I used to assist the sysadmin at my highschool since he had no time. I KNOW damn well a server has no special requirements of it's powersupplys. My computer is left on 24/7 for the past countless years, and the PSU IS STILL WORKING.

ONTOP OF THAT, if you still think that this is moraly OK and it is a donation still, READ THE EULA! You agreed to it! If you dont, then you have no right to have the game installed legaly OR moraly.

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The servers are not in a huge datacenter. We ran out of funding to keep that going and had to move them back to austin.

1 machine is still running because that is all that is needed for ns4 atm.
The other parts are sitting next to it.

We do not charge for anything. Rewards were put into place so that we would not have to bend over backward for someone when they sent in a donation. Prior, we would get requests for some custom god armor or a house etc and the time to do that and the fairness to others was a little out of whack.


When you are tired of ranting and trying to destroy us let me know. We have been through much worse.
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lets just sit down and have some cake......its all the world needs, oh and pie for Kromix... :wink:

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I agree with Term!

(Just because no one else will! :P )
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yay! PIE
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cake

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