Amazon Changes

-Chronepsis- · Post by **-Chronepsis-** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:28 pm

Why not just take away immunity to parilyze,and keep immunity to mind spells.therefore making them immune to stonehold,but not parilyze.

deathdearler1 · Post by **deathdearler1** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:34 pm

i think call lightning should get split between everyone in the area like isaacs does. if a mage can only have a few mass area spells for massive damage then a druid should suffer the same. especially since they get that monky dragon crap to go with it.

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:21 am

Let's try to stay on topic.

I wrote: I think it should be remembered that even without IGMS or Bigby's, a "maximized" (read: cheap) mage can beat a "maximized" dragon.

-Chronepsis- · Post by **-Chronepsis-** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:29 am

Igms is actually worse now,specially 1 on 1 in pvp,it does a maxed damage of 140 now.and ive seen somone make it hit only 1 person even with 2 ppl attacking them.240 damage per round is a heap.

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:33 am

-Chronepsis- wrote:Igms is actually worse now,specially 1 on 1 in pvp,it does a maxed damage of 140 now.and ive seen somone make it hit only 1 person even with 2 ppl attacking them.240 damage per round is a heap.

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Marah Telexus · Post by **Marah Telexus** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:51 pm

Thats funny. If you nerf both call lighting and stonehold, what else does a druid have?? Nothing. Besides, call lightning only works outside now anyways, so that rules out using it in alot of areas. Also, where IGM's have no save, call lightning has a reflex save. Why attack the weakest of all the caster classes? Druid's really only have one hope, dragon shape, and that only comes at lvl 30 (minimum), and I've seen a high lvl mage and a high lvl cleric bring down a dragon shape, so they aren't that overpowered.

Post by **Flailer** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:35 pm

Ok - removed the immunities from the Amazon mobs - bosses still have it though. As a consequence, the saves were upped a bit, a couple spell/ability tweaks here and there, and the CR dropped by about 1 for all of them. Want the CR to be slightly higher than Frostdale, but still leave room for more areas to have higher CR.

Ok, hopefully that's the last tweak. Getting tired of them...

deathdearler1 · Post by **deathdearler1** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:02 pm

cool, immunities on epic mobs really sucks....especially when you can't have them.

Lework · Post by **Lework** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:08 pm

The only thing i dont like it how they react to darkness. I'll get 1 mob in my darkness and have 5-6 mobs from across the map "get curious" walk over and before i know it im taking on 5 amazons.

Post by **Netrom.dk** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:42 pm

They should only investigate darkness that is in their line of sight, and why wouldn't they investigate some strange dark cloud where their friends are shouting out warcries?

ihuntudown · Post by **ihuntudown** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:17 pm

man do i love my Aleta smacking those amazons to another plane :p

deathdearler1 · Post by **deathdearler1** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:23 pm

i still haven't figured out the "group sight" thing. how can 1 mob cast True Seeing and every mob in the zone telepathically "knows" exactly where you are. talk about your dumb affects.

Post by **Yonwe** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:50 pm

still haven't figured out the "group sight" thing. how can 1 mob cast True Seeing and every mob in the zone telepathically "knows" exactly where you are. talk about your dumb affects.

It's not that all the enemies immediately know where you are; rather, it's the programming for enemies to follow each other in packs, in the same way Neversummer guards will "seek help" from a group of commoners. As long as any one of the group is aware of you, the others will follow until they get within 5', when invisible/darkened creatures are visible without checks (albeit with the normal 50% miss chance).

deathdearler1 · Post by **deathdearler1** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:51 am

nope, they know where you are.....try it and see. they aren't even following the guy with the spell, they just run to you and kill you. same thing happens in the gnolls with the archers, if a mystic figures out a way to see you arrows fly in from around the zone.

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:31 am

Well, it can somewhat be rationalized ... there will be that 50% miss chance Yonwe speaks of. Imagine the Gnoll Mystic ordering his archers to fire in that general direction. They may or may not hit the area he is referring to; hence the miss %.