prestige classes

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:36 am

If it doesn't require a Prestige class unique to one of the other factions, LA and AO will accept any race/class/align combo

Bluestar · Post by **Bluestar** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:27 am

I built these prototypes outside of NS, and without regard to it. My only NS-specific consideration was my belief that PvP will be more common in NS4. I chose the classes based on the purpose of the character. I assigned attributes, skills, and feats in a manner which will maximize the potential of the classes that were selected. Characters that are designed under this premise are viable anywhere. Good gear will make them better; poor gear will not hurt them. The three that I mentioned were the three that I felt were the best.

Since my anticipation is that PvP will be more prevelant in NS4, I do not understand why anyone would state that the "uber" character is a thing of the past. Somebody has to fight the evil uber fighter/pm types from Mystral Ascendancy

I don't care what mod you put them in or what equpiment you give them, that is a class combination that is hard to beat.

But more importantly, my main point seems to have been lost. Whether these characters will be any good is not the issue, the issue is that I do not have the freedom to create the characters I want to create.

Bluestar · Post by **Bluestar** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:49 am

The problem is that seveal ideas I had required more than one prestige class - which is not allowed.

srbraith · Post by **srbraith** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:52 pm

so if Weapon Master isn't unique to any faction, can anyone mutli-class to Weapon Master or is it not available at all?

Pettsson · Post by **Pettsson** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:35 pm

It would seem that anyone could.

Knightwing4 · Post by **Knightwing4** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:38 pm

You guys are missing a LARGE factor that NS4 hasn't that NS3 had.
What? AB

You want a fighter/PM? Well guess what, you need to spend 15 classes (5 wiz cuz you need to get 3rd lvl arcane casting, and you had your imp KD int at 13, OR you can get 13 charisma for bard, but that's no more imp KD for you without serious sacrifices) and PM 10 lvls for crit immune, grats, you just got crit immune at the cost of 8 AB and an attack per round, OR if you went fighter first, you just lost 15 potential levels of epic fighter feats.

Btw a bard/palemaster/rdd would be MUCH worse since you'd be required to sacrifice the all-powerful IKD, AND an attack per round, and some AB penalties

BTW, i was making the case that your uber items can no longer make up for poor AB

srbraith · Post by **srbraith** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:27 pm

you actually only need 3 levels of wiz not 5 levels.

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:41 pm

Since when is it impossible to have an 11 CHA and an 11 INT? (You get a +2 INT at level 9 RDD)

You act like not having the maximum possible AB will make a char useless... 33 AB on my fighter/barb in NS3 wasn't even that bad on GO and Brut and the like.

Lunas · Post by **Lunas** » Fri May 14, 2004 3:22 pm

there goes my dream of a level 40 player with 5 rogue 25 assassin and 10 Shadowdancer

but that doesnt mean he cant multiclass fighter as well

so rogue 5 assassin 25 10 fighter

Thanos · Post by **Thanos** » Fri May 14, 2004 3:33 pm

Developers are trying to make a group oriented PvP game. If you allow more than 1 PRC it just takes any weakness the characters would have and they wouldn't have any need of grouping. The game needs a rock,paper, scissors feel. On top of that they are trying to balance the game for PvP. Crazy class combos just make it that much harder to balance. If the game wasn't PvP first and just PvE I would say go nuts with class/prc and combos.

I don't think they have gone far enough. I think some PRC and class combos should be eliminated. Like 39 sorc/1 pally or cleric19/10rdd/1bard or fighter27/palemaster10/wizards3. Balance is life.

Lunas · Post by **Lunas** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:06 pm

but no matter how many great builds some one does there will still be a weakness for that build.

for instance my ns3 build i had just perfected before it was wiped

so you know it was 29 rogue 10 WM 1 Monk i know this might be possible on ns4 but to get to level 40 is a very long wait

this guy had 62 AC 46 AB
26 STR
38 DEX
26 CON
20 INT
14 WIS
12 CHA

and full immunitys to all status effects cept crits and 33 Fort 50 Reflex 32 Will

he also had 15d6 sneak attack and he adveraged 180-350 damage a hit and had 4 on hand 2 off hand and haste also he has 47 tumble PP and many other skills. all over 40

this guy was easy to kill if you had a syth weilding crit monster he was a match for almost any thing else out there monks and him just danced for hours

QuickLightning · Post by **QuickLightning** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:38 pm

im sorry Lunas...as soon as you said 10 WM i stopped reading...nothing with 10 WM is perfect, WM is a 7 level class...no more no less.

DrakhanValane · Post by **DrakhanValane** » Fri May 14, 2004 9:48 pm

A finesse Fighter 10/WM 28/Monk 2 works great.