Your Armor discussion

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emil392
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Re: Your Armor discussion

Post by emil392 »

Amoenotep wrote:emil, when you figure out how to make the bio engine better we'll let you tell us how to allow specific concealment bonuses on shields for specific races.
Oh I can't, that's why I brought it up. You can't either. So if you have some problems with the way Gary Gygax (RIP) and the people who created 3.0-3.5 made their rules, well, I do with some of them too, but in Biowares NWN theres not much you can do. And there's not much you should do based on the way things are currently hardcoded and balanced anyway. (You know after re-reading this, I am wondering if there actually may be a way to mess with like... defensive stance adding a concealment bonus. Anuerysm)
we'll also let you rewrite all the code in ns4 to make it so awesompwndness. we know your better than us, we just don't like to admit it yet.
You're not telling me anything I don't already know.
for your questions on shields, most of your dex builds don't even get the shield feat for free....hows that for pnp? bioware gave everyone the shield feat.
That's only sort of a little less than part true. Rogues don't get the shield feat, true. They are your stereotypical DEX build. But, god bless WotC they gave us the ability to multiclass. So complimentary to a rogue you can add any other class that will give you shield prof.
when you join the staff I'll let you in on all the secrets you think you know and alot you never knew existed. That'll probably be the time you quit playing because your perspective of the world would be crushed.
You underestimate me, and I'd be glad to see that particular invitation in my inbox. Because what you (omg, I'm about to sound like Willow, god help me) think you know that you think that I don't know I know and understand better than you think I do, but what I know that you don't know would blow your mind.
also...the original slaves never quit because of MD, they just decided to move on from this game.
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Re: Your Armor discussion

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emil392 wrote:Hell, we have a PWnD server that blows away the NS4 test server. I'll take credit for that. It's my baby. Before we make a build, we log in the test server with every NS4 item available to us, including books the LETO you stats and LETOd subrace bonuses (as another aside, our PWnD subrace engine blows the NS4 one of the water and lets it fall back down again so we can drown it and laugh).
Dang, cRaZy, aren't you in charge of all the FoN computer stuff? Where's our server that's better than the NS4 server? This guy rants better than you, too.

Meh, that's ok, I've gotten used to fail.

A little more DR on heavy armor and a little less on robes doesn't seem unreasonable. Tower shields already have a weight disadvantage, that seems enough.
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Re: Your Armor discussion

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frogofpeace wrote:
emil392 wrote:Hell, we have a PWnD server that blows away the NS4 test server. I'll take credit for that. It's my baby. Before we make a build, we log in the test server with every NS4 item available to us, including books the LETO you stats and LETOd subrace bonuses (as another aside, our PWnD subrace engine blows the NS4 one of the water and lets it fall back down again so we can drown it and laugh).
Dang, cRaZy, aren't you in charge of all the FoN computer stuff? Where's our server that's better than the NS4 server? This guy rants better than you, too.

Meh, that's ok, I've gotten used to fail.

A little more DR on heavy armor and a little less on robes doesn't seem unreasonable. Tower shields already have a weight disadvantage, that seems enough.
Me? The IT guy? I can't even get my own comp to run smoothly. I thought you or burrahobbit was the IT guy :P.

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Re: Your Armor discussion

Post by Korr »

Amoenotep wrote:for your questions on shields, most of your dex builds don't even get the shield feat for free....hows that for pnp? bioware gave everyone the shield feat.
Rogues dont... but AAs do. Makes sense right? right? Wait, no... archers who should be wearing shields?!?!?
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Re: Your Armor discussion

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Love your sig
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mining
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Re: Your Armor discussion

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I think its because Bioware think shields are godly necessary :roll:

Don't think you can put returning on armor
Then carry 20 of them in a Heward's Handy Haversack or something like that :P.

Anyways, Hulking Hurler lets you disprove 95% of gear statements :lol:

As for efficiency of armour, I have never played a build that would wish to wear heavy armour. AC isn't all that important when casters rule everything. When elemental damage is often > physical damage by a decent margin. Heck, in PVP all you need is one spell and all armour is ignored.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.

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Re: Your Armor discussion

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true and not mining. Often times in mage vs mage battles on ns4, its the first person to shoot bigby (9th level) that wins, because the other mage likely will not have a good enough AC or skills to by-pass the spell.

If you can prove this "armor" is now a weapon that makes it optable for returning right? ';)
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Re: Your Armor discussion

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[quote="emil392"Hell, we have a PWnD server that blows away the NS4 test server.[/quote]

btw..where is the ns4 test server? i want check that out :)


you know..since i'm not smart enough to login to a regular oc game and leto my own stats right there in the game manually :)
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Re: Your Armor discussion

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Amoenotep wrote:
emil392 wrote: Hell, we have a PWnD server that blows away the NS4 test server.
btw..where is the ns4 test server? i want check that out :)


you know..since i'm not smart enough to login to a regular oc game and leto my own stats right there in the game manually :)
They want the cool spell changes.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.

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