Unmitigated PVP without reason.

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Unmitigated PVP without reason.

Post by Crucified »

As Neversummer 4 is an Open Beta, it is natural that the developers are trying to help the players get the most out of their playing experience, so that they can accurately give feedback about the PW. Essentially, however, this involves the ability to level unthreatened by players who take it upon themselves to be the "guardians" of whatever locale they find to be unsuitable for others to inhabit.

I and a party member, today, ran across one such a player. We were experimenting with killing the ogres at Server 1's Archaeologist Camp map, and arriving at satisfactory success, when we began to be damaged by an unseen enemy. Suddenly, a summoned Lantern Archon appeared and began attacking us. We assumed this was part of the 'uncontrolled summons' bug, and therefore didn't attack back, as we expected its owner to eventually realize their mistake and call in their summon. This didn't happen -- in fact, that owner of the summon, "[~] Alexia", began to attack us as well. Without provocation. We sent numerous talk messages for her to stop, and yet it continued, until I had been killed by her summon. I respawned, being transferred to another server and being assessed a respawn penalty because it was her summon that killed me, not her.

My party member and I returned to the same spot just 5 minutes later to attempt to regain the lost EXP, and she was there yet again, and proceeded to do exactly the same, this time killing my party member as well.
We returned, and yet again, she was there, and once again began to attack us. At this point, my party member got furious and began to attack her, eventually bringing her to "Near Death". She ran and logged off.

Returning to our original spot to kill ogres once more, we were confronted with another player-- "[~] Aya". Obviously the same person, but with incredible fighter stats, returning to finish the job that she couldn't finish on the other character. She purported to be the same level as I am, which is 8, and yet she derived a miraculous Critical Hit of 89, and subsequently derived another miraculous Critical of 77 on my party member, killing us both.

This is not only detrimental to the community that Neversummer is trying to build, but it is also directly against the rules:
Player Killing

This is probably one of the toughest subjects in online PWs – sometime players deserve it, sometimes they don’t. Sometimes it’s accidental, sometimes it’s purposeful and malicious, or simply without reason. The servers will be Player vs Player and faction battle will happen, however general common sense should tell you if you are going to far.

Excessive killing or the hunting down of low level characters for sport are unacceptable. PKing to the point of harassment, to where it affects another player's enjoyment severely, will also not be tolerated. As with Pick Pocket, resolution of PKing situations that come to a DM will depend largely on the reputation of the players involved and their histories.
The bolded text explains what I mean. After taking 1200 XP and around 12,000 GP in respawn penalties, and telling us, "Now don't come back.", I would not hesitate in saying that this [~] Alexia is PKing to the point of harassment. Clearly, she believes she owns an area. That's ridiculous.


As for why I'm posting to these forums, I would've contacted a DM, but there is rarely a DM online.
I suggest something be done, otherwise NS4 will lose end-users not to the PW itself, but to maliciously unmitigated PVP.

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Post by dond »

yep, metagaming lameness :/

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Post by Alexiagold »

1 I told you to leave.

2 I never logged out, I zoned to the other server to rest ocassionally, but never logged out.

3 You said something to the effect of "Screw you wench, screw you [censored]" when I told you I was there first and needed to exp.

4 Your party members were overpowering to my sorc, yet after killing him, he kept coming back with you.

5 In frustration that you guys would not GO AWAY, I logged in my level 14 fighter, and killed you both. That's right level 14, your cleric was level 13 so don't give me this BS.

6 I have a level 24 sorc, but I didn't get him, because I wanted a fair fight, but without the tedium of my sorc.

7 We are in Hostile factions.

8. My fighter is a WM scyther, I get good crits.

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Post by JesterOI »

Don't any of you know about the concept of sharing?
None of you dumbasses knows?

Back to kindergarden with all of you!

Seriously, just because someone is set to hostile by the server doesn't mean you need to attack. Didn't either of you ever have the experience of having to share watchers at mad inventor's place? Usually if there was more than one person there we would split the area in half and stick to our sides, the middle spawn was up for grabs for whoever got the first attack in.
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Post by dond »

Alexiagold wrote:1 I told you to leave.


3 You said something to the effect of "Screw you wench, screw you [censored]" when I told you I was there first and needed to exp.




7 We are in Hostile factions.
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you never 'need' to exp.
why are you staking zones and backing it up with your other chars to support staking the zone and making it your own.
as DD said, not lineage 2 here :P
wtf is with this crap

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Post by Lothy »

ROFL, i cant believe they kept returning to same place after geting PKed couple of times. just to get PKed again? LOLOLOL

when i get PKed, i usually logon with my higher level char and slaughter the offenders. this is NOT metagaming. i think of it as calling my OLDER BROTHER to settle my school disputes. he comes to school and beats the crap out of my bullies".

bottomline: killing other faction members is encauraged!
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Post by Lothy »

dond, zone occupation is a good strategic move. occupating forces MUST BE backed up by a larger "support" group of force. lets say U.S humvees get ambushed by Iraqi terrorists, they call in air support which comes ASAP and bombs terrorists' positions. maybe some heavy armor comes to help out the humvees and "cleans the place up".
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Post by Lokey »

Too much metagaming lameness not to be locked. PvP systems are due for cleanup after we figure out the current round of exploits. After that, we may find the time to make some content and maybe play ourselves :roll:

Crit for 110 is possible for a non-gimped char level 10 or so in a number of ways; that's normal no need to dwell on that.

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Post by DeputyDog »

Why didnt the 3 of you group up and go have some real fun instead of wasting so much time walking back and forth and not acomplishing anything but getting mad at each other?
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