Leto subraces

Post by **Flailer** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:07 am

As Zing has implemented the new system for getting your subrace stats (and a big round of applause for him for overcoming the technical challenges that went along with that), please test creating new subraces using the new system to make sure it's working properly.

The stat bonuses you should be getting now should be natively applied - meaning that the Int bonuses actually count toward skill points on level up, toward meeting (or not meeting) feat requirements, etc.

Please let us know if you find any bugs in the process so we can switch from the old subrace system to the new one as soon as we can.

Thanks.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:18 am

sounds like an awesome thing....too bad i made an Aasimar a few days ago....oh well.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:14 pm

redid my Aasimar..he seems to be working just fine. talked with a guy who had a 1/2 ogre, started with like 24 natural str...he seemed to like his also.

is the 1/2 ogre a bigger creature now? cuz my Aasimar only came up to his chest and it seemed his toon had that extra foot and a half on my height. if it is then maybe the can dual wield large weapons or single wield them with sheilds?

Epistaxis · Post by **Epistaxis** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:31 pm

I have tried to make a ghostwise halfling and everything except the hide bonus is added.

Post by **Lokey** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:47 pm

is the 1/2 ogre a bigger creature now? cuz my Aasimar only came up to his chest and it seemed his toon had that extra foot and a half on my height. if it is then maybe the can dual wield large weapons or single wield them with sheilds?

See http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewt ... 2897#42897

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:26 pm

I have tried to make a ghostwise halfling and everything except the hide bonus is added.

It's the species ability... not a perminent skill boost.

Post by **Zing** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:19 pm

Yes indeed.

If you wish to clarify exactly what you should be getting subrace wise please look here:

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=3759

Post by **Mr. O'Dearly** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:29 pm

Does this update fix the favored class penalties for multiclassing?

Ex. Drow have favored class cleric. Elf has favored class wizard.

If you are drow and you take a lvl of cleric you get 10% xp bonus. However, if you multiclass to Cleric/fighter you take a 20% multiclass penalty because your favored class is still seen as wizard for multiclassing.

Post by **Zing** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:43 pm

That's not been tackled yet.

Gumppy · Post by **Gumppy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:43 pm

OMG, are you serious?? so basically the favored class listings is useless - oh great - wonderfull - well im scrapping my 1st toon then a wildelf druid/monk i must of missed the bit in your documentation that says this oh well.

Post by **Zing** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:44 pm

I wish you'd scrap your first post to go with it.

Post by **Mr. O'Dearly** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:47 pm

okie doke Thanks Zing.

and Gumppy, for a wild elf its not that big a deal. With only two classes and no ecl you'll barely notice the xp drop.

Falazure- · Post by **Falazure-** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:02 pm

It seems to be working fine,not sure if this is suppose to happen,but i made a character who is suppose to get a minus to int,he kept the same int ,but all other stats changed.it was a Githyanki.

Gumppy · Post by **Gumppy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:23 pm

It is a big deal. For example I was planning to go say 18th druid and then the rest monk. so for my last 22 lvls (assuming 40 is actually resonably achievable) i will take a 20% xp hit - thats a big deal to me.

The other option is to always keep it within 1 lvl , so like 3/2 3/3 4/3 4/4 etc the much weaker option in my opinion.

as an example i will be 18 druid 1 monk to get to 18/2 i need 19k xp 20 percent of which is 3800 extra to lvl (all without any relic bonus - ive yet to get any in my short time here

)

All im saying is it would have been nice for it to be clearly visible that druid is in fact not wild elf favored class for xp penalty purposes, u can add the animal companion not working to that too. It is very confusing is all.

Have a nice day.

Alain · Post by **Alain** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:29 pm

once again Ill say my favorite phrase: Blame Bioware.

Our devs took out all multiclass penalties ages ago, and a patch from bioware put them back in. Sorry they've been too busy trying to correct the myriad of other problems to update the documentation, but it has been said several times in these forums, so it isnt anything new or unknown.