In regards to kst being jerks.....

[KST_HAVOK]

ok well it has come to my attention that people think kst are jerks.....

ok let me explain something.


NS-NC >>>>> GOOD
TC-RK>>>>>> Kind of nutral
SL-AO-MA >>>>> EVIL

ok now as you see this chart above look what is needed to be taken into consideration.

WE ARE EVIL! thats it. Now take into consideration people in our ALLIED factions arent calling us jerks and saying we are these Tyrants. No they dont cause we will buff help raise and invite to our parties and our groups when on.

Then there is the shouting issues. Ok so we are on and we raid NS. Shout out to taunt. Noone comes.

Now there are rare circumstances where Jain and Xirt (<<<other chars too) , and sometimes other non brethren members will come defend. Notice when there is a defence and we are killed ...we dont shout anything excpt a GOOD FIGHT JAIN, or NICE HELL BALL XIRT. We SHUT UP after.

Then were running alo9ng oger pass with our level 12 people. and people log on specifically to kill us. LOL and then have the nerve to say OWNED out in shout.

Now you people know who you are and know what the situation is. Certain People ( i will reamin them nameless so the post doesnt get locked ) i dont understand how you can hunt our lobies but when we raid your city you shout out "HAVOK I HAVE NO INTEREST IN FIGHTING YOU"

When 2 mins ago you had no problem killing me with my other char but when a friend says hey lets raid NS and now im a challenge you run off.

OF corsae were now going to taunt you in shout. For one were evil and for 2 you just proved you are nothing but a talker.

Basically what im trying to say if we didnt run around uncontested all nioght we would shut up. Hell if you want a good fight ill fight you with no disaprming or anything that could beconsidered wrong. I would love to have a great pvp.

And mabey stop hunting lobies from any faction then talking crap about it.
I dont care if we get kiled as a lobie.(i was killed 2 nights alone 15 times)
and i didnt say nothing. As of late we dont even kill lobies unless raiding or we get a tell from someone who is in our faction who was recently attacked.

So basicly cmon people rise up against the evil. Stop being punks and killing us as noobs then we raid your city dont defend.

The faction system was put in place for a reason. The guilds are evil good nutral for a reason. So either be prepared to be killed from th eenimy faction or Join Sleeth to be protected

[Mestophalies]

Well I agree totally.

I am in RK and we are allied to Sleeth and KST. No big secret there.

I think before you go off on a tantrum, you should check to see what the server status is.

[lordvan52681]

OK, i won't touch the rest of your "tantrum" as Mestophelies put it, but i do wanna make 1 point; Who said LA is a "good" faction?

We accept all races, classes, and alignments. we have blackguards, druids, and paladins fighting along side each other. We have Okies (and the Gods know they are FAR from good guys). Even most of the Brethren claim to be lawful as opposed to good.

I think the best way I've seen it put on this forums (cant find the actual post so sorry no quote) was that in this faction based mod, there is no good vs evil, only us vs them. To NC, LA is just as "Evil" as AO. To AO, NC is evil for not laying down and praising the dragons for the (supposed) Gods they are.

Sorry, just wanted to get that clear. please continue with the rest of your rant.

[Ryddwillow]

Gee, I remeber KSt was the saints of all ns4 and hmm, falling under some kind of evil---get real--u need help lots of help,that is why u got friends whom u said u kicked all over aanitoch. U guys cant kick each other out of wet paper bags even if I wet them.

( Folks it is not hard--ban together and put ur difference aside and go after them, trust me they are like [censored] cats--wet [censored] cats!@)



TRUST ME ON THIS ONE

[Elagneros]

NS-NC >>>>> GOOD
TC-RK>>>>>> Kind of nutral
SL-AO-MA >>>>> EVIL

Wrong. The faction alignements are pretty evident from the faction aliances and alignment restrictions:

NC/TC = good No evil character allowed in these factions.

SL/MA = evil No good characters allowed in these factions.

AO/RK, NS: Neutral. No alignment restrictions on these factions.

You guys are under the mistaken impression that Sleeth is an evil city. It's not. It's ruled by a good and an evil dragon.

Then there is the shouting issues. Ok so we are on and we raid NS. Shut out to taunt. Noone comes.

Largely because either there's no one on to defend, or the defenders are not in NS when you do raid. People aren't going to drop everything because you and Kromix are itching for some pvp combat.

Now you people know who you are and know what the situation is. Certain People ( i will reamin them nameless so the post doesnt get locked ) i dont understand how you can hunt our lobies but when we raid your city you shout out "HAVOK I HAVE NO INTEREST IN FIGHTING YOU"

When 2 mins ago you had no problem killing me with my other char but when a friend says hey lets raid NS and now im a challenge you run off.

You guys are KOS. So your characters are NOT safe if I run into them. You wanted a war with everyone, now deal with it.

Basically what im trying to say if we didnt run around uncontested all nioght we would shut up. Hell if you want a good fight ill fight you with no disaprming or anything that could beconsidered wrong. I would love to have a great pvp.

And that's the problem, all you guys seem to want is pvp. Some of us don't feel like spending our entire time on the server fighting pvp fights.

[P. Fricebottle]

Elagneros is right, we aren't in the PvP mood all the time. On night me, Plankton, and a large group were defending the city and the next night there was another raid. I was on my lowbie so I just thought screw it, the server isn't ALL PvP people. Its got PvP to all the idiots who think that this is a nice little world and all the factions get along. On a side note, you keep mentioning that a few non-bretheren characters defend the city. While most of the defenders aren't in the bretheren, the only Brother I ever see defend is Rudash. And heck, his highest level is only like 24 and he still tries, cheers mate .

[Shieldcracker]

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Goodness, man. I couldn't have put it any better myself, so I won't try. I agree with everything he just said.

[Val'Sharess]

being evil does not necessarily mean you have to be a jerk.

you guys are jerks by choice, and use evil as a crutch to explain it.

personally, i think that's kinda sad.

[WarFalcon]

Well, the question was asked. In the interest of being informative I will give an answer.

Why is this even a question?

You are thought of as jerks because you act like jerks. You talk like jerks and treat people like jerks. You hide behind your “evil” baloney but it neither convinces nor fools anyone but the gullible.

Jerks are what jerks do. If you don’t like being thought of that way do something different.

As for PvP, here is a direct quote from Netrom.dk about the subject of PvP on this server:

“PvP in a faction slight rp fashion yes, arena mentality no.”

Other people want to do their thing too and you want to push them out. You won’t leave people alone and you badger those that don’t see things your way.

You treat people badly and sooner or later they get tired of it and then it turns and bites you in ways you don’t like. It is an absolute rule of life.

Some people think guys act a lot like another player who was banned recently, and look what HE did. Look how he repaid the server for all the hours of “fun” he had. Just the way you treat newbies and lowbies who come to this server. With past experience in mind, I think this is a dangerous attitude to have around.

I’ve said it before. Attitude attitude attitude!

Warfalcon

[MLoki]

You guys claim red = dead but you can't even get that right. You still ally with DD and when [DCN] is partied up with another faction trying to level lowbies you kill everybody around them and leave the solo [DCN] alone to die by mobs. Nice way to be an ally. As we have said before we will respect your friends and allies when you do the same for us. We are not going to "War" with kSt there is no point (or profit) in it but if kSt continues to kill our allies then we will be forced to black list you. AO is NOT an evil faction any more then LA is. We accept all races/classes and will make slaves of them as well as the rest of the server but that doesn't mean randomly killing everybody. Where is the profit in that? A dead slave is no use to us. So try using your head or go to some other faction where you can justify what you do better and stop giving AO a bad name for the rest of us.

MLoki

[Death Dealer1]

just for the record....... red=dead is my thing..tis why i kill some ppl on here.

[Elagneros]

I summed up my views on the whole faction wars thing rather succinctly last night in the game:

[P. Fricebottle]

A little lame Elagneros, I know you got that quote off of Call of Duty 2 from that General guy. Give him so credit .

[TGPO]

What in the world are our schools turning out? The paraphrase was from a real life general, not history ne video game. One of the most famous generals in history as a matter of fact, and more succesfull than most of the famous ones too, if not so politically correct.

A quick google on world war 2 generals should turn up the notable that was quoted there.

[P. Fricebottle]

I know it was a real general TGPO, I just can't remember his exact name. General Patson or something like it, I can't really remember. Its just that, the quotes in Call of Duty 2 were what made the game so cool. Besides, I've only taken U.S. Government so far so I'm not exactly quite educated about History .