Greatest build of all?

Blairconz · Post by **Blairconz** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:52 am

I was just trying to see what builds that people had thought up, im not saying role playing isnt important I just like reading up on good builds to get inspirations for my own

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Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:08 am

these builds are damn cooll....but theres 1 more that OWNZZZ melee and can at least stand up for mages...

its paladin/bard/pale master

it's obvious u must change alignment..but final build attributes are:

about 77 (+2-2) ac with divine shield (and carrying a tower shield)
62 ab with max str (u dont need +5 weap,u got holy avenger spell which makes it +5+dispell)
immune to criticals
good saves
bard's song (if u max perform it boosts u +1 ab too)
taunt-discipline-tumble in best numbers

It got the same ab with a fighter/wm/rogue...but more ac+immunity to criticals...dammmnnnnnnnnnn and it got more saves too (dont forget charisma is needed for this build)!

Spura · Post by **Spura** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:48 am

TheBestDeception wrote:2 things to note:

1) If you are talking about a fight that was properly prepared for, Druids win hands down. I dont know of a single build able to take multiple Creeping Dooms' and live.

2) Dont get me into size category.........half-ogre is weak.

Stupid. Like ANYONE will stay in creeping dooms. Druids can't WIN shiat... 90% of their spells are negated by evasion. The only good spells are drown, creeping doom and stonehold. Vs stonehold you just need to put that melencia armor on and cast freedom or be a RDD or PM. Why the hell would anyone stay in creeping doom? Even caster himself can't and besides that, 50% piercing immunity gear+ 10/- piercing make damage a lot smaller. So creeping doom is next to useless in PvP. Give a mage leonsbane robes + imbued mithril mesh small shield. Then cast etheral visage. That combo absorbs up to 70 damage from creeping doom. How about gust of wind? Druids are crap melee and crap casters. All they do is use stonehold + creeping. As soon as someone doesn't get paralysed by stonehold it is game over for them.

Spura · Post by **Spura** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:01 am

turtlehermit wrote:Best build To 40 lvls.

Dual Langer's weilding Half-Orge with 25/8/7 "TnT"Cleric/fighter/Weapon Master. Immune to death warded/hasted/imp invis/stat boosted/divined mighted/divine powered/battle tided/extended regened/shielded/mage armoured/darkflamed/ect...while casting greater dispell/storm of vengence/true seeing/monster summonning/ death spell throwing/ epic spell casting/med sized weapon on large sized character weilding those chain lighting casting hammers with improved crit/weapon focus/ weapon mastered/ weapon of choice toting/ and whatever else you feel like doing with all those other epic feats.

Go into battle with a to hit of around 75 doing 50-70 dmg per hit with a x3

Do it Make him now You know you want to

I don't wanna make that. There is no way in hell you are getting 75 AB with that. I think WM levels gain you 2 AB. If you take cleric levels in epic(and very few people do) you can get 28 base AB. So that is 30 AB base with WM. Add to that weapon +buffs which is max 20 AB. You have 50 AB with that(or lower). 4 AB from feats. 54 AB. Now you would need 21 STR mod to get 75 AB. With one weapon that is. Doublewielding hammers you get -4 -4 so you would need at least 25 mod=60 STR. And since you waste epic feats on epic spells and the like I suppose you don't have many feat in great STR. Also any SD will rape you blind. No..I think I will stay with my bard with 10 minute song rather than casting short lasting buffs over and over again. He also has 100+ listen buffed at lvl 40 so I think I will stay with him.

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:02 pm

Spura wrote: You probably get whooped by bard 26/fighter 4/RDD 10. Huge AC, AB, damage, huge listen skill, huge disc, can reduce opponent's AB AC and skills with curse song. Also has improved invis and haste and greater magic weapon. Tons better than any fighter rogue.

What stats would such a character have?

Darksbane · Post by **Darksbane** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:27 am

*Laughs at Spura*
""As soon as someone doesn't get paralysed by stonehold it is game over for them.""

So, you managed to get through all of the multiple stoneholds, past the creeping dooms, through the storm of vengeance AND kill the Premonitioned/Greater Stoneskined Druid with 250+HP while the summoned Solar is beating you about the head with a greatsword?

If you get into melee with the druid before he starts casting, sure, unless he's got a high discipline, he's dead. He gets a spell or two off, you're screwed.

Spura · Post by **Spura** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:25 am

Lol OK let me see if you can kill my RDD. Stoneholds don't work on him. And you obviously are sitting outside the creeping doom so I will walk through them with 50% 10/- in piercing and 20 damage reduction.So that leaves only you with storm of vengenance and a solar. Now solar=teh sux vs me. And I have mega saves so SoV won't do much. Premonition does nothing since my RDD has +5 weapons.

I could also kill you with my mage. Gust of wind will eliminate all your stoneholds creeping dooms and storms. Solar dies to banish or dismissal. Mantles absorb your attack spells. Mage would have mind spell and death spell immunity anyway.

Spura · Post by **Spura** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:40 am

TheBestDeception wrote:
Spura wrote: You probably get whooped by bard 26/fighter 4/RDD 10. Huge AC, AB, damage, huge listen skill, huge disc, can reduce opponent's AB AC and skills with curse song. Also has improved invis and haste and greater magic weapon. Tons better than any fighter rogue.
What stats would such a character have?

Well he has 56 AC at lvl 30 and 51 AB. He's getting more great STR feats and AB yet. He gets normal full plater AC + 1 from haste + 4 from RDD +5 from song + 8 from tumble. His curse song also lowers enemy AB by 2, damage by 3, skills by 10(when 40), saves by 2 and AB by 5. That effectively raises his AB and AC further and makes enemy easier to KD because of reduced discipline. Discipline will reach 90 and listen will exceed 100 when buffed. I cast buffes extended so they will last 52 rounds at lvl 40. Song will last 100 rounds. Anyway I prefer this char to clerics(they do have much better damage), song can't be dispelled and I get UMD which is fun to use.

Darksbane · Post by **Darksbane** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:15 am

Your mage's death spell imunity will last you about fifteen seconds, I think thats what Shadow Shield is down too now, maybe a little longer if extended.
As to walking through my creeping dooms, well, you'll be going through two or three of them overlapping, so thats down to 1/3 your normal movement speed, and if I had them up before you got there, then you could be taking 40d6 damage a round you know.

Post by **TheBestDeception** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:27 am

Spura wrote:Lol OK let me see if you can kill my RDD. Stoneholds don't work on him. And you obviously are sitting outside the creeping doom so I will walk through them with 50% 10/- in piercing and 20 damage reduction.

Doesnt that leave you rather vulnerable to slashing weapons???

Throst54 · Post by **Throst54** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:00 pm

mmmm i'm not at home atm so i cant rember all the monk/paladin/cot stats.... @ 40 it's somethign like 7monk/15paladin/19cot or 9monk/3paladin/28CoT (depends on if the implemnts the 6 lvls of a class rule)

saves w/o gear are about 70-75 w/ divine wrath (which cannot be dispelled) so unless i'm rolling all ones... most spells dont do all too much. enuff energy resists to take all elemental forms of dmg from weapons and most from spells. ac is decent (wears full plate) and with buffs AB gets high enuff to rival cleric's buffs... but tis oh so much better cuz Divine wrath cant be dispelled....

while this build isnt anything special against tanks, in fact it prolly wont win but more along the lines of brining a tie... tho w/ it's savant saves and ab and whatnought, making use of monk's free KD feat, will win most fights against mages...

spura-- dont forget that curse song is neglible... a smart personjust chug a restoration potion and your curse song is no more-- then again... i somehow doubt ppl actaully do that... hmmm

Blairconz · Post by **Blairconz** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:54 pm

Everyone seems to be getting very serious about something that is only a silly game (Hate mail ahoy!) I just wanted to find out about some good builds. By the way, any suggestions for a third class for a fighter/wm who specialises in the scimitar?

Zhorn · Post by **Zhorn** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:10 pm

Yeah, take Harper Scout.

No one will be expecting it and you can use their l33t special powers to create a fit of laughter in your enemies that will render them totally helpless to your attacks!!!!

Risen · Post by **Risen** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:02 am

Third Class: Ranger.
Then you can pretend you are an adventurer that idolises/emulates Drizzt.

I'm playing a Fighter/Rogue/Cleric of Mask (Magic + Trickery domains)atm. Not sure of what amount of levels I'm taking, but it will definetly be heavy on the cleric. Maybe 7/8/25??? I don't know. Anyone got any advice?

Throst54 · Post by **Throst54** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:04 pm

mmm, always go for having even lvls of fighter and odd lvls of rogue...

i'd go 4 fighter and 11 rogue and nab up imp evasion...

seems to me rite now epic spell caster lvls arent that important other than if u want epic spells...

if you will have the dex for epic dodge, drop 2 cleric lvls for more rogue to get it...