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Ryddwillow wrote:
Some people just can't build MM. So they give up and whine :lol:
Everyone wants an ultimate build that will dominate everything else. It's just not gonna happen.
well unless you build in NC that is. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Somebody whined about the assassin class and BAM it happened. My assassin that I built did just fine without any help before the help and yet you talk still? :roll:
Hmm which assassin would that be? The DD one you built pre-wipe where we could get +20hs over spot or another one that hasn't pk'd anything since you made it?

Alls i did was make a suggestion that the devs agree'd with like rational human beings do...Willow. Hardly considered a whine. Not like I was filling 5 pages of forum filled with mindless rhetoric trying to justify why apples are better then oranges so make oranges more like apples.
Alls Assassins got was a hide/ms bonus and you don't see everyone rush out to make one. Why because they are a one hit wonder with poor melee with little DR. They take skill and patience to play.
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I think Willow is right. RK is underpowered. It is not because Willow's statements are supported by facts, but because he believes in what he's saying so much that all attempts to have a rational dialog based on facts just fade in his presence. Moreover, I publicly denounce Lolth and Baphomet and declare Willow as my Only God from now on, for the reason mentioned above.

Cure for stun is called clarity. But you need to have someone to cast it on you. It is called a team work. But I understand why that concept might be unnatural to you since you are, by my proclamation above, a monotheistic deity. RK can build lots of wonderful builds that can easily counter everything we have in MA/SL. You just don't know how, but that is not my problem.

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There's no difference whatsoever between a svirf ranger/x/HS in RK or TC, it'll be much the same, and they get made in TC, NC, et al
RK is smitten to make rangers? rangers? build a mage to spot them all and bam dead ranger, so you wasted a months time when RK is what? RK doesn't have the races to go with the classes here, not like LA did. So if I build a pure barb (my toon) or a pure fighter and from other factions I have many a choices here like earth gensi for 1. Go and compare to what races RK has that everyone else can use. Yes you all say RK has so many classes to choose from, but crap classes to go with it compared to another faction.

WHO wants to build a RK bard in RK when you can go to AO and help defend but, there is the problem, no jobs in AO. The field is not balanced. sugar coat it any way you want but the balance for some things are not there period

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Hmm which assassin would that be? The DD one you built pre-wipe where we could get +20hs over spot or another one that hasn't pk'd anything since you made it?

Alls i did was make a suggestion that the devs agree'd with like rational human beings do...Willow. Hardly considered a whine. Not like I was filling 5 pages of forum filled with mindless rhetoric trying to justify why apples are better then oranges so make oranges more like apples.
Alls Assassins got was a hide/ms bonus and you don't see everyone rush out to make one. Why because they are a one hit wonder with poor melee with little DR. They take skill and patience to play.
Hmm which assassin would that be? The DD one you built pre-wipe where we could get +20hs over spot or another one that hasn't pk'd anything since you made it?
See, going down the wrong street again. My assassin was built not for spot, but for death. Bargeld's assassin was for spot with his bow. I played an assassin to a pristine level that it got to me as the only one defending SL relic cradle. I waited for the sd's to grab the relic and BAM, dead. Heck I pked a pure fighter 5 times in 1 night. Pked many a pure barb's and the rest. Only 1 got away was the BB rogue and the DwD. Where were you to help? Think before you answer? :oops:

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Stop using "It can be stunned" as a reason not to build stuff. Most things, (CoTs without feats + paladin, even!) can be stunned by a stunning fist build.
For now it is like "Wail of the banshee" years ago when there was no counter to it and cot and pally are the only classes to defend against it? Hmm, RK can only chose 1 race that gets a bonus to charisma. In factions that have races besides the use of a dwarf, you can choose better.

I mean the stunner is the toon to beat, get on board, toot, toot.

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Ryddwillow wrote:Bargeld's assassin was for spot with his bow.
Gem was built before FH and strider bow existed and before DE and the ranger bow and Crown of Kultie. I got lucky on those. She was built for DC, speed, and ranged para. Just sayin...

I think of the toons that glow and truefalse have made out of RK and there were some really good ones. Punch drunk was one of the first real problem toons on the server after last wipe, at the time I didn't have anything to counter it. Yes, NC can take the same concept and make a better toon with CoT overall, but the same is true for may builds in many factions. CoT is a trump class. One of the best barb builds I've seen is an EDR Azer dorf. Hanneman is a great raiding build, Monk DWD clc spamming Full heal and restore all day, good luck stopping him from running with a relic, it's quite comparable to a PM clc for survivability, but has no vulnerabilities like PM. RK has the highest disc fighter possible for token purposes. You may not get drow, but you get smurf. You might not get githz or egens, but SL is limited to NE for those, so neither can be any mix with monk. If you want to make a fuss that you don't get anything that is exclusive and good just to RK, then you are just being jealous of NC, cuz they have a wide variety of exclusive builds that no other faction compares to, except maybe MA and the wide variety of PM due to it's usefulness dipping 10 lvls. The races are irrelevant.
Ryddwillow wrote:I mean the stunner is the toon to nerf, get on board, toot, toot.
I fixed that for ya ;)
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Bargeld wrote:
Ryddwillow wrote:I mean the stunner is the toon to nerf, get on board, toot, toot.
I fixed that for ya ;)
QFT.

Its like, take the most OP ability (stun for 3 rounds) and base it on wis (which is good for clerics, monks [oh look, Mr. Cheesepants and Mr. Cheesington are here] druids [Oh, and the one class that doesn't need physical stats, so pump that DC!]), then give an epic feat (on the fighter list, because fighter feat selection normally sucks, right?) and then make it give 2 DC a pop. How is that not a recipe for disaster? lol.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.

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I mean the stunner is the toon to nerf, get on board, toot, toot.
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Hey that is not what I said first of all and if you "quote me" make sure I used those words. :?:
Gem was built before FH and strider bow existed and before DE and the ranger bow and Crown of Kultie. I got lucky on those. She was built for DC, speed, and ranged para. Just sayin...

I think of the toons that glow and truefalse have made out of RK and there were some really good ones. Punch drunk was one of the first real problem toons on the server after last wipe, at the time I didn't have anything to counter it. Yes, NC can take the same concept and make a better toon with CoT overall, but the same is true for may builds in many factions. CoT is a trump class. One of the best barb builds I've seen is an EDR Azer dorf. Hanneman is a great raiding build, Monk DWD clc spamming Full heal and restore all day, good luck stopping him from running with a relic, it's quite comparable to a PM clc for survivability, but has no vulnerabilities like PM. RK has the highest disc fighter possible for token purposes. You may not get drow, but you get smurf. You might not get githz or egens, but SL is limited to NE for those, so neither can be any mix with monk. If you want to make a fuss that you don't get anything that is exclusive and good just to RK, then you are just being jealous of NC, cuz they have a wide variety of exclusive builds that no other faction compares to, except maybe MA and the wide variety of PM due to it's usefulness dipping 10 lvls. The races are irrelevant.
No, hell no. This is garbage. I used dwarvern short swords to pk my enemies not relying on some bow that existed 1 wipe away. I knew some good disarmer could get my swords so i used plus 5 swords and pked them all. (well, for a few) No you are wrong on the assassin, the rest of your words are just eye candy to me is all.

Beat a cot is a mage, beat a sd is a mage, beat a bard down hard is a mage, beat a pm and his monkey is a mage, of course a good mage. :wink:
Monk DWD clc spamming Full heal and restore all day
Clerics with the rule to heal is monkeyjerky. If you have a pure build with heal in your skills, I am doing it. I played 40 lvls to acquire the skill of heal and some sob sap on shout yells you healed. Yes I did because I invested in it like a cleric--tough love ya'll.

Some cleric/pm restoring left and right, or any cleric, restoring themselves, well good for you. Do not complain when I do it and will.


I think of the toons that glow and truefalse have made out of RK and there were some really good ones. Punch drunk was one of the first real problem toons on the server after last wipe, at the time I didn't have anything to counter it. Yes, NC can take the same concept and make a better toon with CoT overall, but the same is true for may builds in many factions. CoT is a trump class. One of the best barb builds I've seen is an EDR Azer dorf. Hanneman is a great raiding build, Monk DWD clc spamming Full heal and restore all day, good luck stopping him from running with a relic, it's quite comparable to a PM clc for survivability, but has no vulnerabilities like PM. RK has the highest disc fighter possible for token purposes. You may not get drow, but you get smurf. You might not get githz or egens, but SL is limited to NE for those, so neither can be any mix with monk. If you want to make a fuss that you don't get anything that is exclusive and good just to RK, then you are just being jealous of NC, cuz they have a wide variety of exclusive builds that no other faction compares to, except maybe MA and the wide variety of PM due to it's usefulness dipping 10 lvls. The races are irrelevant.
Bullpuckey speech, build in RK and understand. Go to AO no jobs there, Go to TC and make your egil DD that defends MA, cannot. So come on whine with your cheese to someone else. :evil:

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I quoted Bargeld's modified quote of you, because it was pretty accurate.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.

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I played 40 lvls to acquire the skill of heal and some sob sap on shout yells you healed. Yes I did because I invested in it like a cleric--tough love ya'll.
I called you out on shout because you were chuggin heal pots, those don't require heal skill.... Been here 9 yrs have ya? guess you haven't learned that much....
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I called you out on shout because you were chuggin heal pots, those don't require heal skill.... Been here 9 yrs have ya? guess you haven't learned that much....
You know If I was a cleric build guess you would not shout then, I have learned many a lesson and not a one from you. Like I said before and will rinse and repeat, I care less what the peanut gallery has to offer and play my own game. (of course by the server rules)

SO peanut you can type till your lil fingers bleed, lol, I care less.

Oh I learned that not everyone here plays by the rules.

Like I said lil peanut, I'll find you with your friends. :wink:

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I played 40 lvls to acquire the skill of heal and some sob sap on shout yells you healed. Yes I did because I invested in it like a cleric--tough love ya'll.


I called you out on shout because you were chuggin heal pots, those don't require heal skill.... Been here 9 yrs have ya? guess you haven't learned that much....

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This truly was a joke response since the toon belongs to a guild in MA. a Duel logger fyi. If it was not for duel loggers here some guilds would go down the ole toilet.


PS and when this toon was down to nothing he got his lvl 40 gods toon to get me. hmm

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frogofpeace wrote:Who's peanut?

Please Frog . . don't ask silly questions. This is a serious subject and should be treated as such.

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Opie Crimeria wrote:
frogofpeace wrote:Who's peanut?

Please Frog . . don't ask silly questions. This is a serious subject and should be treated as such.
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