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Lokey wrote:I'd need to figure out what it actually does first ;) See change log.
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Not sure if it is already affected, but I think healing spells are considered conjuration and was wondering if epic focus in conjuration positively affects them. Also, healing domain gives all healing at above average. If you combine the two is it possible to max out the healing, or give some other such bonus, like the spells heal as if they are the next highest.

Just a thought.

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Read the title of the topic ;). That would improve them, but I think they are already affected by foci, or was it only by cleric healing domain?
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currently conj focus helps when you use heal offensively (as in vs undead, otherwise they save for half.) i believe healing domain empowers only the "cure" line of spells, (not healing circle or Heal/Mass Heal). that will help you get to the heal cap more quickly, which if i recall from an earlier complaint you also reach with 35 or so cleric levels. (meaning a high enough level cleric will not get any benefit from healing domain.)

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It empowers all healing spells, circle, mass, etc, you should see it on mobs in icy crypt or HoD. Absolutely wonderful!
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Ah, but with Healing domain you can slot twice as many heals. :P

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Heh, silent or still spell gives you the same. And who wouldn't take it if you're going caster class?
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Me.
Clerics don't need to be still or silent. :D

Quicken is a different matter, though I might not want to swap out all my level 9 slots for heals.

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Is it possible to add another script to disarm that would tag the item that was disarmed in a similiar way to items that are pickpocketed. That way if someone picks up the item that gets disarmed you could still kill them to get it back. As it stands right now once the item hits the ground it's fair game and there is no way to get it back if the player doesn't want to be nice about it.

and for you healing domain vs still/silent spell healers. Why not take both to get 3x the heals?
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Silence is great for clerics... they can't cast spells while silenced, just like arcane casters. I made a high-discipline pure cleric once (before wipe) who was great vs. casters... silence aura with auto-silence 3, 52 SR, and epic abjuration.
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yeah DCN on reflections we all had auto scilenced clerics. they were great for farming and pretty much could walk over any caster class. though scilence still doesnt protect you from curse song. that always bothered me
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the silence self-cast has always annoyed me, the fact that a level 33+ cleric or bard can have an undispellable and unresistable aura that shuts down casters is pretty crazy.

I would suggest nerfing it to be enemy target only or put on the list of spells breach gets rid of.

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It should be dispellable, and what about the Paladin aura that gives 20% spell failure for up to 8 hours. . . non-dispellable.

Greater Dispell = 25 + roll vs caster level +11

So max is (without auto-20 success)

25 + 19 = 44 - 11 = 33 (max dispellable caster level without auto-success)

Consider Abjuration focus feats

44 + 6 = 50 - 11 = 39 (max dispellable caster level with epic focus without auto-success)

Also Consider Abjuration Defense

39 + 2 = 41 (max dispellable caster level with epic focus without auto-success with defense)

So the only non-dispellable thing in the server is a pure caster with Arcane Defense (Abjuration).

So joy to the level 40 bards, level 40 wiz/sorc, level 40 cleric, and level 40 druids. Of which druid and wiz/sorc have the best options. Druid can self-buff, lay out AoEs and then turn into a dragon that cant be dispelled (aside from auto-breaches). And the wizard who will just lay you out either way ';P


So long story short, if you wanna dispell it . . . make a dispeller.
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renarð wrote:the silence self-cast has always annoyed me, the fact that a level 33+ cleric or bard can have an undispellable and unresistable aura that shuts down casters is pretty crazy.

I would suggest nerfing it to be enemy target only or put on the list of spells breach gets rid of.
Its quite resistable in fact if i combine it with SR its drops in and out of scilence like a strobe light
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abjuration focus feats add to DC for saving throws.
Dispell checks are based on caster level and have nothing to do with saving throws. Is there a server change not on the wiki?

Secondly, a 33+ bard/cleric will have epic spell penetration vs a 45 SR for all the ecl 3 toons and as high as 52 SR for the pure druids and clerics. That's a 75% chance of shutting down ecl 3 toons and still 50% against purists which I still believe is undispellable (save a 20).

Lastly, running someone in and out of your silence aura will eat 2 levels off their spell mantle each pass for added annoyance.

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