Bard Song

Razarr69_ns3 · Post by **Razarr69_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:36 pm

OK, so Bard song has been beefed up on NS (from what I hear). Is there any place I could see what the new Bard Bonus Tables looks like? Proper Character Planning requires knowledge of what you are planning.

Originally the AB+ for Bard song capped at +2? Is this still the case? If not, at what levels / skills does it change? How bout the HP and AC bonuses?

Curse Song?

Of course I could level up a bard to lvl 40 and make precise notes along the way, but that would be a extremely difficult and time consuming way of gaining knowledge that surely some else has compiled. Plus I would have a junk lvl 40 character (and seeing as I have 0 lvl 40's now I sincerely do NOT wish to level a straight class bard up to 40 just to track song changes)

cryodog2_ns3 · Post by **cryodog2_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:32 pm

max bard song for ab and ac is 30 lvls of bard with 100 perfrom. this will give a +5ab and +8ac. the more cha you have the more hps you get.

Razarr69_ns3 · Post by **Razarr69_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:08 pm

Thanks. my main concern was the AB progression. Could you spare the details on what lvl for +3 and +4 and +5 AB bonuses begin? To me, the rest of the benefits are just fluff.

The reason I ask is I am trying to create a melee toon with the max unbuffed AB possible (68). So far I have only found a way to get to 65, but I keep trying combinations (on paper). Since Bard Song is long lasting and non-dispellable it will do in my considerations for AB.

Anyone got a formula for an unbuffed (and non song'd) melee AB of 68 or better? (this does include all equipment though)

DM ex Machina_ns3 · Post by **DM ex Machina_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:37 pm

an AA can get an ab in the 70s. i haven't found it to be worthwhile, though.

Charon_ns3 · Post by **Charon_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:40 pm

So what was that post from Dr_Fangorn saying AB+ was capped at 68 all about?

http://www.nsrealm.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 55&start=0

Did I misunderstand something?

Dr_Fangorn_ns3 · Post by **Dr_Fangorn_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:51 pm

Whenever I've taken a look at what the game actually uses for an AB+ modifier, it has always capped out softwarewise at 68 for me, despite whatever my AB+ says it is on the character sheet.

I just popped onto Pacific and tried a few things out. There are lots of discrepancies between what your character sheet tells you and what the computer actually uses...for instance, my fully buffed combat cleric has a +77AB/4 attacks on his character sheet, but hits with only a 67. My arcane archer, however, has a +71/4 attacks on his character sheet, but hits with a 72.

So basically, I'm saying, I was wrong, 68 is not the maximum, 72 is, but my other point is, don't trust what the character sheet tells you.

Acara_ns3 · Post by **Acara_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:05 pm

Since max ab you can get from the weapon + buffs = +20.. you don't have 100 ab even if the sheet says you have that..

Rong_ns3 · Post by **Rong_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:28 pm

im 99% 72 isn't the max

DM Xero_ns3 · Post by **DM Xero_ns3** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:11 pm

I belive the highest you can hit melee (unbuffed) on NS is 70. If anyone has beaten that, I'd love to see it sometime.

As for archers, mid-70's is possible without buffs (don't recall the exact number).

Blaskor_ns3 · Post by **Blaskor_ns3** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:12 am

Highest Melee unbuffed I have seen is 69. Not sure how you'd get to 70.

Acara_ns3 · Post by **Acara_ns3** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:49 pm

fighter/wm, 10/30?

cryodog2_ns3 · Post by **cryodog2_ns3** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:40 pm

max bard song is +6ab and +8ac, i was wrong in my earlier post.

DM ex Machina_ns3 · Post by **DM ex Machina_ns3** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:43 pm

and maxed curse is -5 ac -2 ab, i believe, which woud functionally add +11 ab +10 ac to the party.

jwiwchar_ns3 · Post by **jwiwchar_ns3** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:05 pm

Blaskor wrote:Highest Melee unbuffed I have seen is 69. Not sure how you'd get to 70.

http://www.ualberta.ca/~jwiwchar/NS/70AB.jpg

Dr_Fangorn_ns3 · Post by **Dr_Fangorn_ns3** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:58 pm

Showoff.

BTW, how goes the construction on the LRT across from UAH?