Build question

Butane · Post by **Butane** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:42 am

I tried to make my own build of Ranger/Druid/Monk with the Easy Build Creator that you load in NWN as a Module. However, because I'm still new to NWN i made some mistakes and the character is weak at lvl 13 because my main stat is Wisdom and that doesn't help a ranger unless you take zen archery. I found this build on the Epic Character Guild and am wondering how well it would work on NS 3.5:

http://home.comcast.net/~worldofgreyhaw ... 39454.html

My Cleric/Druid/Monk build is going well, However I have always enjoyed the ranger class more than cleric so I am hoping to find a way to play my favorite class.

Post by **Lokey** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:04 pm

The most important thing to know: you need 18 druid for dragon shape (bug fix).

Like I said before, it's late game, without the highest end equipment for your level, that setup is going to be painful to level.

I did druid 19/monk 1/bard 20 pretty soon after wipe, that one's fun, but I leveled that with other people too.

33 druid/monk 6/dip for gear (fighter I think) has spell casting fun.

Generally if you want spell buffs to stick, you need caster level 25 (more bugs--you'll see lots of dispel).

Butane · Post by **Butane** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:44 pm

bug fix? as in you are not supposed to be able to make dragon shape at 14?

Rufio · Post by **Rufio** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:24 pm

Prior to version 1.69, Dragon shape required wild shape 5x/day, not 6x/day as stated in the in-game description, so you could take dragon shape with 14 druid levels. This was fixed in the 1.69 update. It now requires wild shape 6x/day, which you get at 18 druid levels. This breaks a lot of dragon shape builds that were designed before the 1.69 update.

That ranger dragon build is still possible, but you would have to go 21 ranger 18 druid 1 monk. You lose an epic ranger bonus feat like that, so it might cause some issues if the build is too tight on feats. It also wouldn't get dragon shape until level 39, making it tough to level.

Unfortunately that build is going to be horribly weak until dragon shape, and there isn't much you can do about it.

Post by **mining** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:36 pm

Rufio wrote:Prior to version 1.69, Dragon shape required wild shape 5x/day, not 6x/day as stated in the in-game description, so you could take dragon shape with 14 druid levels. This was fixed in the 1.69 update. It now requires wild shape 6x/day, which you get at 18 druid levels. This breaks a lot of dragon shape builds that were designed before the 1.69 update.

That ranger dragon build is still possible, but you would have to go 21 ranger 18 druid 1 monk. You lose an epic ranger bonus feat like that, so it might cause some issues if the build is too tight on feats. It also wouldn't get dragon shape until level 39, making it tough to level.

Unfortunately that build is going to be horribly weak until dragon shape, and there isn't much you can do about it.

No, don't worry, nothing is weak on 3.5, lol. You don't even need discipline.

Rufio · Post by **Rufio** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:48 am

Haha, fair enough

Post by **mining** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:19 am

Rufio wrote:Haha, fair enough

Edit: I mean for levelling, btw

. In actual end game PVM, you need to have at least 10 PM levels / 90 AC / stupid good lulzy damage for killing bosses fast, in general. DI carries most builds through regardless of actual stats

Post by **Lokey** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:18 pm

Nah, you don't need ac, just DI.

Post by **mining** » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:50 pm

Lokey wrote:Nah, you don't need ac, just DI.

Dragons that can AC tank DWP slightly disagree. I'm still bummed that you can't pull off Edodge and Dragon Shape.

Butane · Post by **Butane** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:52 pm

Thanks for the replies- I've rerolled and went with a straight caster cleric for now. Eventually once I have some better gear for one I want to try out the ranger/druid. It's hard to level because you max wisdom and ranger doesn't rely on wisdom for damage- do you normally take Zen Archery?

Edit- Oh yeah and what is DI?

Post by **Lokey** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:21 pm

Damage immunity + damage resistance + soak if it applies.

It's just a matter of tracking down equipment so nothing can kill you at whatever level you are. Most stuff in NS3 has stupid low ac, ab is almost never a problem, and there's plenty of things around you can equip at level 1 to take you to 40.

Here's our sad tale of when we started at server wipe (we had some general ideas where cruise control items were, but missed some doozies). Took about 25 hours to hit 40, we'll do better next time

Post by **Amoenotep** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:45 pm

we did horrible things to the server...and pretty much solo'd every area/boss for laughs

Post by **Lokey** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:45 am

Did one of us solo gnolls?

G1, yah, but easy to die there.

Haunted House can be annoying.

Starfell--regen on first boss is ug, didn't come up with a fast way to solo with char that can do rest.

Dwarves can be annoying solo after Tag, but it's not bad.

Everything else off EC no problem, Santa, anything else I miss?

Post by **DM Sun Tzu** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:20 pm

yeah - The Exploit Avenger - haven't seen anyone kill him yet.

Post by **Amoenotep** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:01 pm

i have a ss somewhere of ghost and i doing 50+ black/white phoenix's all at once

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